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May and Juncker clash over ‘nebulous’ comment / VIDEO:Theresa May says she had 'robust' conversation with Juncker



Theresa May - wielding her handbag - was seen locked in a tense standoff with the EU commission chief as the second day of the summit gets under way in Brussels. Although the sound was switched off, TV cameras caught the pair exchanging what looked to be heated words for at least a minute. Mrs May took the Eurocrat to task for his comments, saying: 'You called me nebulous. Yes you did!' Mr Juncker, who had one hand on Mrs May's arm, looked to be trying to soothe her anger by denying making the jibe. Speaking at a press conference at the close of the summit this afternoon, the premier admitted they had a 'robust' exchange. She said she had been 'crystal clear' with other leaders about what she needed to get to win support for the Brexit deal. The clash, which evoked memories of Margaret Thatcher's 'handbagging' of EU leaders to secure Britain's rebate in 1984, came after Mrs May's latest appeal for 'legally binding' assurances over the Irish border backstop to save her Brexit deal fell flat.


May and Juncker clash over ‘nebulous’ comment
The UK prime minister said EU leaders were willing to continue talking about further ‘assurances’ for MPs.

By           CHARLIE COOPER, LILI BAYER AND JAMES RANDERSON 12/14/18, 4:41 PM CET Updated 12/14/18, 9:04 PM CET

Theresa May clashed with Jean-Claude Juncker in a "robust" exchange in the European Council chamber, as tempers frayed at a summit that did little to boost the British prime minister's hopes of selling her Brexit deal to MPs at home.

May acknowledged that she and Juncker had shared a difficult conversation, which was caught on camera. It followed a press conference late on Thursday evening at which the European Commission president appeared to describe her demands for more assurances on the Irish backstop as "nebulous and imprecise."

May, speaking before departing the summit for London, said it had been a "robust discussion." In his own press conference to round off the meeting, Juncker admitted that, "we were not dancing ... she thought that I did criticize her."

He said the comment, which was delivered in French (he said he preferred the translation "foggy" for the word "nébuleux") was in any case not aimed at her but at the general debate on Brexit in the U.K.

When Juncker was asked pointedly to explain the conversation, Council President Donald Tusk, standing beside him at the news conference, started singing "da, da, da" — signifying the awkwardness of the moment.

But Juncker had a ready explanation. "I did not refer to her but to the overall state of the debate in Britain," he said. "As I told you earlier I was following the debate in the House [of Commons] and I can't see where the British parliament is heading at. And that's why I was saying that this is nebulous — foggy in English — so I was not addressing her. And in the course of the morning after having checked what I said yesterday night, she was kissing me."

As leaders departed Brussels, ending what was clearly a difficult summit for the U.K. prime minister. EU officials said that the problem was a matter of fundamental disagreement on policy.  It was not May's request for "legal assurances" that her 27 colleagues found problematic — theoretically, the Council could easily offer guarantees and has done so in other similarly controversial situations. Rather, it was the nature of the assurances she sought. Granting May's request — as she stated it — would have fundamentally undermined the "backstop" provision on the Ireland-Northern Ireland border that the EU views as crucial to the Withdrawal Treaty.

In addition to holding their line on the need to prevent the recreation of a hard border on the island of Ireland, officials said that May provided the EU27 leaders with no convincing assurance that anything they did would change the math in the House of Commons, where 117 of her own party opposed her in a confidence vote this week.

By denying May's request for genuinely new, legal commitments from the EU that the backstop is an insurance policy that is unlikely to be needed and would not be permanent if it ever was, the 27 hope to force May and her parliament into clarifying where there might be a majority of votes for any given path forward on Brexit. Right now, they see such a majority only for preventing a no-deal scenario. The EU27 also don't want May pushing too close to the edge of the so-called "cliff" at which point the U.K. could theoretically crash out of the EU without a deal.


At their closing news conference, EU leaders stressed that they had no personal animus toward May, and in fact felt sympathy toward her.

"We have treated Prime Minister May with the greatest respect — all of us," Tusk said. "We really appreciate the effort by the prime minister to ratify our common agreement. My impression is that in fact we have treated Prime Minister May with a much greater empathy and respect than some British MPs, for sure."

Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz, whose country holds the EU's rotating presidency, said: "The problem is just that we have two different positions but that is all. Theresa May, I think, was a tough negotiator in the meeting and also made her point very clear, and then on the other side, the EU27 are united, which is good, and were also able to make our point clear."

The EU is adamant that the backstop — a customs union between the U.K. and EU plus other measures — is needed to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland and protect the Good Friday peace agreement.

May, at her own news conference, sought to offer a positive spin, hailing Thursday's EU27 summit conclusions as a step forward.

May admitted the situation was "never going to be easy" but insisted she had been "crystal clear" with the EU about her demands.

"As formal conclusions these commitments have legal status and therefore should be welcomed,” she said, insisting that EU leaders had promised further discussions to follow in the coming days and weeks.

But while the EU is prepared to talk, they have been categorical that they will not renegotiate the backstop or any other part of the legally-binding Withdrawal Agreement. "I have no mandate to organize any further negotiations," Tusk said. "But of course we will stay here in Brussels and I am always at the prime minister's disposal. It is my job and my pleasure."

The commitments made by EU leaders go no further than the EU's already stated position on the backstop in any case. Indeed, a draft text seen by POLITICO Wednesday, which said the EU stood ready to provide further assurances, was watered down.

And to make matters worse, Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar cast doubt on May's assertion that the Council conclusions have legal status. He said it was "a question for the legal service," but added that they were "serious stuff."

But May was undeterred, saying that more work could be done to reassure MPs before she brings her deal back to the House of Commons before January 21.

“There is work still to do and we will be holding talks in the coming days about how to obtain the further assurances that the U.K. parliament needs in order to be able to approve the deal,” she said.

In a week in which she pulled a vote on her Brexit deal for fear of overwhelming defeat, then saw off a confidence vote from within her own party, May admitted the situation was "never going to be easy" but insisted she had been "crystal clear" with the EU about her demands.

With the clock ticking down to the U.K.'s March 29, 2019 exit date, May said her government would be “talking further about no deal preparations” in the coming days and weeks. A deal is her preferred option and she insists the one she has negotiated can get through parliament, where there is also a majority for blocking a no-deal outcome. But May herself has warned of an “accidental no-deal" if she cannot sell her plan at home.


France's President Emmanuel Macron talks with European leaders | Emmanuel Dunand/AFP via Getty Images

Her political rivals at home seized on the summit outcome. Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour party, called on her to hold the vote next week to allow parliament to "take back control” of the Brexit process.

“The last 24 hours have confirmed that Theresa May’s Brexit deal is dead in the water," Corbyn said. “The prime minister has utterly failed in her attempts to deliver any meaningful changes to her botched deal."

Juncker said EU leaders, who have faced their own rebellions at home, could only empathize with May.

"Theresa May is a good friend of ours," he said. "We were prime ministers. We have sometimes to  face motions asking for our resignation.... So we are sympathizing with Mrs. May."


Theresa May's Brexit strategy left brutally exposed by Brussels failure
Labour declares deal ‘dead in the water’, as hopes of further talks on backstop disappear

Daniel Boffey , Dan Sabbagh and Jennifer Rankin in Brussels and Heather Stewart in London

Fri 14 Dec 2018 18.57 GMT Last modified on Sat 15 Dec 2018 00.00 GMT

Theresa May has come home from Brussels empty-handed and without hope of further negotiations over the Irish backstop, with the failure to achieve any kind of breakthrough leaving her brutally exposed.

Plans to work over Christmas on a legal guarantee over the temporary nature of the backstop had run into a brick wall, EU officials said, despite May’s claim that she would be holding further talks “in the coming days”.

Brussels sources claimed May was just keeping up a pretence that the legal guarantee she had promised rebellious Tory MPs during this week’s leadership challenge was still on the cards.

Without clear evidence that she has made progress, May faces mounting jeopardy in Westminster, with Labour seriously considering tabling a vote of no confidence before Christmas, if it believes the prime minister’s DUP partners might support it.

“The last 24 hours have confirmed that Theresa May’s Brexit deal is dead in the water. The prime minister has utterly failed in her attempts to deliver any meaningful changes to her botched deal,” he said.

One shadow cabinet member said the moment at which Labour would table a no-confidence vote was getting “much, much closer”, but said it would depend on the stance of the DUP. “We are watching like hawks,” he added.

Some of May’s allies also fear renegade Brexiters from the right wing of the Tory party could throw their weight behind Labour in the hope that a no-confidence vote would result in a more Brexit-friendly Conservative being installed in her place.

In Brussels on Friday, EU leaders insisted they would not do any more to sweeten the Brexit deal containing the backstop that 100 Tory MPs want her to ditch.

The European council president, Donald Tusk, spoke of his respect for May but he was unable to hide the fact that he could not give the prime minister what she had come for.

“I have no mandate to organise any further negotiations,” Tusk said. “We have to exclude any kind of reopening our negotiations on the withdrawal agreement. But of course we will stay here in Brussels, and I am always at Prime Minister Theresa May’s disposal.”

The prime minister’s Brexit aide Olly Robbins had been holding secret negotiations since Monday over a two-stage plan to secure the legal guarantee that Downing Street believed could turn MPs in its favour.

But leaders ripped up a prepared script on Thursday night in which they would have offered both warm words and the promise of further assurances in January.

The prime minister had been seeking a “joint interpretative instrument” that would put a duty on both sides to try to get out of the Irish backstop within 12 months of it coming into force.

Member states led by France and Ireland lined up to reject further concessions, warning that May’s deal appeared doomed to failure whatever was offered. They instead reiterated that they did not want to trigger the backstop, and that if it did come into force it would be a short-term arrangement.

Asked three times whether the UK could get further concessions or legally binding assurances that go beyond the current agreement, the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, offered May no succour.

“The 27 member states have given assurances. They are contained in the conclusions of yesterday evening,” she told reporters. “So that is our position, that is what we have put on the table and now we expect Great Britain to respond.”

With Downing Street’s plan in tatters, the EU’s leaders instead turned their fire on the House of Commons for showing the prime minister a lack of respect, as they sought to convince MPs to back the deal.

“We have treated Prime Minister May with the greatest respect, all of us, and we really appreciate the efforts by the prime minister to ratify our common agreement,” Tusk said. “My impression is that in fact we have treated prime minister May with a much greater empathy and respect than some MPs, for sure.”

Earlier in the day, May had confronted Juncker, the European commission president, accusing him of calling her “nebulous” in a press conference he had held on Thursday evening. A TV camera captured the moment and lip readers said that the clearly angry prime minister had said: “What did you call me? You called me nebulous.”

A defensive Juncker tried to deny he used the word, saying: “No I didn’t, no I didn’t” – although he had used the word when he had criticised the British negotiating position the night before.

Juncker said the row had been a misunderstanding. He said he had been describing the “overall state of the debate in Britain”. “I was following the debate in the house and I can’t see where the British parliament is heading at and that’s why I was saying it’s nebulous,” he said.

Sour moments dominated the two-day gathering, with a string of EU leaders complaining about British MPs and the Brexit standoff at Westminster. Many questioned whether it would be worth making further concessions to the UK as suggested by May because they would not be accepted.

One person who heard May’s presentation at the summit on Thursday said she struggled to make a consistent and coherent case, reinforcing their decision to dig in, and at one point even suggested EU leaders show her some Christmas goodwill.

On Friday, May said she still hoped to obtain “further clarification” from Europe. She told reporters she had had “a robust discussion” with Juncker about his comments at the press conference and said she had been “crystal clear” about the assurances she was seeking.

The Irish prime minister, Leo Varadkar, said the EU was prepared to offer the UK “explanations, assurances” over the Brexit deal, but “there are limitations”. He said there could be nothing “to contradict or render inoperable the withdrawal agreement”, which contains the backstop.

Critically, he said the EU could commit to its “best endeavours” in starting a free trade deal by a given date, but it would “not be possible to say that in law” because trade talks were too complicated to tie down to a fixed timetable.

Earlier in the day, Arlene Foster, the leader of the Democratic Unionist party, which is supposed to prop up May’s government, said May “has promised to get legally binding changes”. She said pushback from the EU was unsurprising and added: “The key question is whether the PM will stand up to them or whether she will roll over as has happened previously.”

Steve Baker, a leading figure in the Tory hard-Brexit European Research Group, questioned whether May was an effective negotiator after the claims said she had struggled to spell out precisely what she wanted. “How can Theresa May stay in office if she cannot articulate what she wants for the UK when it really counts?” Baker said.



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