Boris Johnson says Putin claimed he could send
missile to hit UK ‘in a minute’
Former prime minister’s comments about call to Russian
president just before invasion come in new BBC documentary
Harry
Taylor
@harrytaylr
Sun 29 Jan
2023 19.03 EST
Boris
Johnson has said that Vladimir Putin claimed he could have sent a missile to
hit Britain “within a minute”, in a call just before the invasion of Ukraine.
The former
prime minister’s comments came in a three-part documentary for BBC Two looking
at the conflict in Ukraine and the lead up to Russia’s invasion in February
last year.
It had been
in a conversation about hypothetical support for Nato on Russia’s borders if
Putin decided to invade, as Johnson tried to talk Putin down.
He told the
makers of Putin vs the West that he didn’t regard Putin’s comments as a threat.
He went on to become one of the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s
biggest supporters and has visited Kyiv since resigning as prime minister.
The show
will air on BBC Two on Monday at 9pm.
“He sort of
threatened me at one point and said, ‘Boris, I don’t want to hurt you, but with
a missile, it would only take a minute’, or something like that,” Johnson said.
“I think
from the very relaxed tone that he was taking, the sort of air of detachment
that he seemed to have, he was just playing along with my attempts to get him
to negotiate.”
Johnson had
warned that there would be tougher western sanctions if Russia invaded, and
that support for Nato would increase – even if Ukraine was not close to
becoming a member.
“He said,
‘Boris, you say that Ukraine is not going to join Nato anytime soon … What is
anytime soon?’, and I said, ‘Well it’s not going to join Nato for the
foreseeable future. You know that perfectly well,’” Johnson said of the call
with Putin.
Ben Wallace,
the defence secretary, also spoke in the documentary about a visit to Moscow in
February in an unsuccessful attempt to negotiate and see off war. He met his
Russian counterpart, Sergei Shoigu, as well as the chief of the general staff,
Valery Gerasimov.
“I remember
saying to minister Shoigu, ‘They will fight’ and he said, ‘My mother is Ukrainian;
they won’t!’ He also said he had no intention of invading,” Wallace said.
“That would
be ‘vran’e’ in the Russian language. ‘Vran’e’ I think is sort of a
demonstration of bullying or strength: I’m going to lie to you. You know I’m
lying. I know you know I’m lying and I’m still going to lie to you. He knew I
knew and I knew he knew. But I think it was about saying: I’m powerful.
“It was the
fairly chilling but direct lie of what they were not going to do that I think
to me confirmed they were going to do it. I remember as we were walking out
General Gerasimov said, ‘Never again will we be humiliated. We used to be the
fourth army in the world, we’re now number two. It’s now America and us.’ And
there in that minute was that sense of potentially why [they were doing this].”
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