Jan. 6 Panel Examining Trump’s Role in Proposals
to Seize Voting Machines
The House committee is looking into efforts by the
former president’s outside advisers to create a legal basis for national
security agencies to help reverse his defeat in 2020.
By Luke
Broadwater, Maggie Haberman, Alan Feuer and Michael S. Schmidt
Feb. 1,
2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/01/us/jan-6-panel-trump-voting-machines.html
WASHINGTON
— The House Jan. 6 committee is scrutinizing former President Donald J. Trump’s
involvement in proposals to seize voting machines after the 2020 election,
including efforts to create a legal basis for directing national security
agencies to take such an extreme action, according to three people with
knowledge of the committee’s activities.
It is not
clear what evidence the committee is examining as it looks at any role Mr.
Trump might have played in encouraging or facilitating the drafting of a
so-called national security finding, a type of document more typically used as
the basis for a presidential order to an intelligence agency to take covert
action. But the committee recently received documents from the Trump White
House including what court filings described as a “document containing presidential
findings concerning the security of the 2020 election after it occurred and
ordering various actions,” along with related notes.
A document
fitting that description circulated among Mr. Trump’s formal and informal
advisers in the weeks following the election. It reflected baseless assertions
about foreign interference in American voting systems that had been promoted
most prominently by one of his outside lawyers, Sidney Powell.
That
document, dated Dec. 16, 2020, and titled “Presidential Findings to Preserve
Collect and Analyze National Security Information Regarding the 2020 General
Election,” was published last month by Politico. It used the groundless
assertions about foreign interference in the vote tally to conclude that Mr.
Trump had “probable cause” to direct the military to begin seizing voting
machines.
“We
certainly intend to run to ground any evidence bearing on an effort to seize
voting machines and to use the apparatus of the federal government to
confiscate these machines in the service of the president’s aim to overturn the
election,” said Representative Adam B. Schiff, Democrat of California and a
member of the committee. “We want to fully flesh out the facts: How close did
this come to being operationalized? What kind of pushback did they receive? Who
was a part of this particular scheme? We want to answer all those questions.”
The New
York Times reported on Monday that Mr. Trump was more directly involved than
previously known in exploring proposals championed by outside advisers to seize
voting machines as he grasped unsuccessfully for evidence of fraud that would
help him reverse his defeat in the 2020 election.
Those
attempts included directing his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to ask
the Department of Homeland Security if it could legally take control of voting
machines in key swing states — Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II, the acting deputy
secretary, said no — and raising with Attorney General William P. Barr the
question of whether the Justice Department could seize the machines, a query
that Mr. Barr rejected, according to people familiar with the episodes.
Mr.
Cuccinelli, who had told Mr. Giuliani that the Homeland Security Department did
not have the authority to audit or impound the machines, later encountered Mr. Trump
at a meeting on another topic. Mr. Trump again raised with him, in passing, the
idea of the department seizing the machines, and Mr. Cuccinelli reiterated that
there was no legal authority for doing so, according to a person familiar with
the exchange.
The outside
advisers had earlier pushed a plan under which Mr. Trump would direct the
Pentagon to seize the voting machines, an idea that was killed by White House
officials and Mr. Giuliani.
“It is
alarming that the former president apparently seriously contemplated
extraordinary and legally not permitted courses of action to seize voting
equipment from states and localities,” said Representative Zoe Lofgren,
Democrat of California and a member of the committee.
The panel
for weeks has been studying the actions of Michael T. Flynn, a former national
security adviser to Mr. Trump who investigators say was involved in discussions
about seizing voting machines, declaring a national emergency and invoking
certain national security emergency powers, including during a meeting in the
Oval Office on Dec. 18.
Mr. Flynn
also gave an interview to the right-wing media site Newsmax a day earlier in
which he talked about the purported precedent for deploying military troops and
declaring martial law to “rerun” the election.
At the Dec.
18 meeting, Patrick Byrne, the former chief executive of Overstock.com who
funded many of the efforts to challenge the election, said he, Mr. Flynn and
Ms. Powell decided they would get into the White House without an appointment
“by hook or by crook” to present their plans to Mr. Trump. He said a junior
staffer let them in the building, and eventually they got close enough to the
Oval Office that Mr. Trump saw them and called them in.
Once
inside, the group pitched Mr. Trump on their plans for him to sign an executive
order for the National Guard to take control of voting machines and for Ms.
Powell to be appointed a special counsel overseeing election integrity.
“We pointed
out that, it being Dec. 18, if he signed the paperwork we had brought with us,
we could have the first stage (recounting the Problematic 6 counties) finished
before Christmas,” Mr. Byrne wrote of the episode in a book, referring to
portions of contested swing states that Mr. Trump had lost.
Mr. Byrne
wrote that Mr. Flynn had drafted a “beautiful operational plan” that just
needed “one signature from the president.” He described various versions of the
plan, including an option for the U.S. Marshals to intervene and another for
Mr. Trump to “have the National Guard rerun the elections in those six states.”
He
described White House lawyers and officials as fighting the plans in the
meeting, including the White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone, who thundered,
“He does not have the authority to do this!”
Representative
Jaime Raskin, Democrat of Maryland and a member of the Jan. 6 committee, said
the panel is trying to understand the “whole picture” of the plan to seize
voting machines and how it relates to other efforts to keep Mr. Trump in power,
such as the former president’s pressure campaign on Congress and former Vice
President Mike Pence to reject electors from states won by President Biden.
“His
overriding objective was to overturn the election. He said that as recently as
this weekend,” Mr. Raskin said of Mr. Trump. “He set into motion a range of
tactical ploys to accomplish his goal.”
Mr. Raskin
added: “It’s hard to imagine a more outrageous federal assault on voting rights
than a presidential seizure of voting machines without any action by Congress
at all and no basis in law. That is the stuff of dictators and banana
republics.”
The
extraordinary plan to mobilize the country’s national security agencies to take
control of voting machines required an equally extraordinary first step. Phil
Waldron, a retired Army colonel who was an ally of Mr. Flynn and Ms. Powell,
revealed in a podcast interview last year that the gambit initially hinged on a
report about foreign interference in the election that John Ratcliffe, the
director of national intelligence at the time, was bound by congressional
mandate to present to lawmakers by Dec. 18, 2020.
The House
investigation. A select committee is scrutinizing the causes of the Jan. 6 riot
at the U.S. Capitol, which occurred as Congress met to formalize Joe Biden’s
election victory amid various efforts to overturn the results. Here are some
key figures in the inquiry:
Donald
Trump. The former president’s White House records concerning the attack, which
Mr. Trump unsuccessfully attempted to keep from the committee by claiming
executive privilege, have been a focus of the inquiry. The panel is also
scrutinizing Mr. Trump’s role in proposals to seize voting machines after the
2020 election.
Ivanka
Trump. The daughter of the former president, who served as one of his senior
advisers, has been asked to cooperate after the panel said it had gathered
evidence that she had implored her father to call off the violence as his
supporters stormed the Capitol.
Kevin
McCarthy. The panel has requested an interview with the House Republican leader
about his contact with Mr. Trump during the riot. The California
representative, who could become speaker of the House after the midterms in
November, has refused to cooperate.
Mark
Meadows. Mr. Trump’s chief of staff, who initially provided the panel with a
trove of documents that showed the extent of his role in the efforts to
overturn the election, is now refusing to cooperate. The House voted to
recommend holding Mr. Meadows in criminal contempt of Congress.
Rudolph
Giuliani. The panel has subpoenaed Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer and three
members of the legal team — Jenna Ellis, Sidney Powell and Boris Epshteyn — who
pursued conspiracy-filled lawsuits that made claims of voter fraud in the 2020
election.
Mike Pence.
The former vice president could be a key witness as the committee focuses on
Mr. Trump’s responsibility for the riot and considers criminal referrals, but
Mr. Pence reportedly has not decided whether to cooperate.
Marc Short.
Mr. Pence’s chief of staff, who has firsthand knowledge of Mr. Trump’s pressure
campaign on the vice president to throw out the election results, testified
before the panel under subpoena. He is the most senior person around Mr. Pence
who is known to have cooperated.
Scott Perry
and Jim Jordan. The Republican representatives of Pennsylvania and Ohio are
among a group of G.O.P. congressmen who were deeply involved in efforts to
overturn the election. Both Mr. Perry and Mr. Jordan have refused to cooperate
with the panel.
Fox News
anchors. Texts between Sean Hannity and Trump officials in the days
surrounding the riot illustrate the host’s unusually elevated role as an
outside adviser. Mr. Hannity, along with Laura Ingraham and Brian Kilmeade,
also texted Mr. Meadows as the riot unfolded.
Big Tech
firms. The panel has criticized Alphabet, Meta, Reddit and Twitter for allowing
extremism to spread on their platforms and saying they have failed to cooperate
adequately with the inquiry. The committee has issued subpoenas to all four
companies.
Fake Trump
electors. The panel has issued subpoenas to 14 people who were part of bogus
slates of electors for Mr. Trump in seven states won by President Biden:
Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Far-right
figures. White nationalist leaders and militia groups are being scrutinized as
the panel’s focus intensifies on the rallies that led up to the mob violence
and how those with extremist views worked with pro-Trump forces to undermine
the election.
Roger Stone
and Alex Jones. The panel’s interest in the political operative and the
conspiracy theorist indicate that investigators are intent on learning the
details of the planning and financing of rallies that drew Mr. Trump’s
supporters to Washington based on his lies of a stolen election.
Steve
Bannon. The former Trump aide has been charged with contempt of Congress for
refusing to comply with a subpoena, claiming protection under executive
privilege even though he was an outside adviser. His trial is scheduled for this
summer.
Michael
Flynn. Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser attended an Oval Office
meeting on Dec. 18 in which participants discussed seizing voting machines and
invoking certain national security emergency powers. Mr. Flynn has filed a lawsuit
to block the panel’s subpoenas.
Phil
Waldron. The retired Army colonel has been under scrutiny since a 38-page
PowerPoint document he circulated on Capitol Hill was turned over to the panel
by Mr. Meadows. The document contained extreme plans to overturn the election.
Jeffrey
Clark. The little-known Justice Department official repeatedly pushed his
colleagues to help Mr. Trump undo his loss. The panel has recommended that Mr.
Clark be held in criminal contempt of Congress for refusing to cooperate.
John
Eastman. The lawyer has been the subject of intense scrutiny since writing a
memo that laid out how Mr. Trump could stay in power. Mr. Eastman was present
at a meeting of Trump allies at the Willard Hotel that has become a prime focus
of the panel.
If Mr.
Ratcliffe had pointed a finger at China, accusing Communist Party officials of
manipulating votes in the United States, Mr. Waldron said in the interview, Mr.
Trump would have been within his rights to invoke rare and extraordinary powers
reserved for a president in times of national emergency. By Mr. Waldron’s
account, those powers would have permitted Mr. Trump to seize voting machines
and conduct an audit of them or a recount of the votes — the same basic plan
that appeared in the draft executive orders that were sent to Mr. Trump.
But Mr.
Ratcliffe and his senior aides were unaware until recently that Mr. Waldron and
Mr. Flynn had plans involving the report, which was not submitted until well
after the Dec. 18 deadline in part because of disputes within the intelligence
community over how to characterize China’s role in seeking to influence
American public opinion ahead of the election.
The report
concluded that there had been no foreign interference in the casting,
tabulation or counting of the votes. It said that several countries had engaged
in operations to shape public opinion over the course of the campaign.
Mr.
Waldron, an information warfare expert who has claimed he served with Mr. Flynn
in the Defense Intelligence Agency, had a longstanding interest in China’s
purported involvement in election interference.
In August
2020, months before a single presidential vote was cast, he developed a
relationship with a Texas cybersecurity firm, Allied Security Operations, which
was co-founded by two men: a technology expert named Russell J. Ramsland Jr.
and a former soldier named Adam T. Kraft, whose online biography shows he also
served at the Defense Intelligence Agency at the same time as Mr. Flynn.
In the
podcast interview, Mr. Waldron maintained that Mr. Ramsland’s team at Allied
Security had made a startling discovery in the summer of 2020: that the Chinese
Communist Party, through software companies it controlled, had developed a way
to flip votes on American tabulation machines, particularly those built by
Dominion Voting Systems. Dominion has adamantly denied that its machines have
security flaws and has filed defamation suits against many of those who have
repeated the claims, including Fox News, Mr. Giuliani and Ms. Powell.
Before they
were used as the basis for the draft orders sent to Mr. Trump, these
allegations about Dominion were the centerpiece for four conspiracy-laced
federal lawsuits that Ms. Powell filed in late November and early December
2020, seeking to overturn results of the election.
The suits —
accompanied by affidavits from Mr. Ramsland, among others — made the baseless
claim that Chinese officials, international shell companies and the financier
George Soros had conspired to hack into Dominion’s machines in what Mr. Waldron
once described as a “globalist/socialist” plot to steal the election.
Luke
Broadwater covers Congress. He was the lead reporter on a series of
investigative articles at The Baltimore Sun that won a Pulitzer Prize and a
George Polk Award in 2020. @lukebroadwater
Maggie
Haberman is a White House correspondent. She joined The Times in 2015 as a
campaign correspondent and was part of a team that won a Pulitzer Prize in 2018
for reporting on President Trump’s advisers and their connections to Russia.
@maggieNYT
Alan Feuer
covers courts and criminal justice for the Metro desk. He has written about
mobsters, jails, police misconduct, wrongful convictions, government corruption
and El Chapo, the jailed chief of the Sinaloa drug cartel. He joined The Times
in 1999. @alanfeuer
Michael S.
Schmidt is a Washington correspondent covering national security and federal
investigations. He was part of two teams that won Pulitzer Prizes in 2018 — one
for reporting on workplace sexual harassment and the other for coverage of
President Trump and his campaign’s ties to Russia. @NYTMike
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