From 1h ago
13.13 GMT
Cummings claims 'pretty much everyone' in No 10 agreed
with him in calling Johnson 'trolley' because of his inconsistency
Keith is now quoting from another Cummings document
extremely critical of how the government machine was working.
Q: Was
there any part of the government machine with which you did not find fault?
Cummings he
spent some time talking to special forces, and they were exceptional.
Overall,
there was “widespread failure”, he says. There were pockets of people doing
exceptional work within an “overall dysfunctional system”.
Q: You
complain that the PM ignored you because he was listening to “pop-ins”.
Cummings
says that was a term used for when officials objected to a decision, and took
the decision to pop in and see the PM, when Cummings was not there, to ask for
a rethink. He says they would ask him to “trolley” on this.
Keith asks
for a clarification.
Cummings
says “trolley” was the term he used for Boris Johnson because he changed his
mind so often. He claims “pretty much everyone” used the term to describe
Johnson too.
They have
now stopped for lunch.
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