Amid
Fractures on the Right, Tucker Carlson Continues His Attacks
On Theo
Von’s show this week, Mr. Carlson lashed out at a major supporter of the
president, the F.B.I. and “unimpressive, dumb, totally noncreative people”
leading the nation.
Tucker
Carlson did not mention President Trump by name in his attacks on Theo Von’s
podcast, but his broadsides were the latest evidence of a deepening divide in
Republican politics.
Jesse
McKinley
By Jesse
McKinley
Dec. 12,
2025
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/style/tucker-carlson-theo-von-show.html?searchResultPosition=1
Tucker
Carlson knows a thing or two about stirring up controversy.
But even
so, his ongoing feud with fellow members of the Republican Party — and critics
who have suggested he’s antisemitic — has been striking. This week it boiled
over on one of the nation’s most popular podcasts, as a schism over the Charlie
Kirk assassination continued to aggravate an already rattled Trumpworld
coalition.
Indeed,
Mr. Carlson’s broadsides were just the latest evidence of a deepening divide in
Republican politics. And he has been at the center of many of those fights,
with trolling, ad hominem attacks, and accusations of betrayal — including by
President Trump — riddling airwaves and social media feeds, with no signs of
stopping.
In his
appearance on “This Past Weekend with Theo Von,” posted on Tuesday, Mr. Carlson
— a longtime ally of the president — offered searing personal attacks on Bari
Weiss, the newly appointed head of CBS News, and the billionaire Bill Ackman, a
major supporter of the president, denigrating their intelligence and
qualifications, while also questioning the F.BI.’s investigation of Mr. Kirk’s
murder.
Mr.
Carlson pointedly suggested that the leadership of the country itself was
mediocre and malignant.
“The most
depressing thing about the United States in 2025 is that we’re led not just by
bad people, but by unimpressive, dumb, totally noncreative people,” Mr. Carlson
said.
Mr.
Carlson, a former Fox News host who is now a podcaster, has fought with
conservatives before, but the tension has intensified since late October, when
he interviewed Nick Fuentes, a far right agitator who has praised Hitler and
repeatedly made antisemitic and sexist remarks. In the interview, Mr. Carlson
offered a largely uncritical ear.
Criticism
from other Republicans rolled in, including from Ben Shapiro, a prominent
podcaster who is an Orthodox Jew, who accused Mr. Carlson of “normalizing
Nazism,” while calling him “an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor,
and a terrible friend.”
Attacks
on Mr. Carlson’s allegiances and beliefs percolated anew this week, after he
announced he was buying a home in Qatar while conducting another genial
sit-down, in that country, with its prime minister Sheikh Mohammed bin
Abdulrahman al-Thani. The Arab country is an American ally and has been a key
mediator in the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza. But some on the American right have
criticized Qatar’s ties with Hamas.
That chat
— and the planned real estate purchase — was sharply criticized by other MAGA
leaders, including Laura Loomer, an anti-Muslim commentator and a powerful
informal Trump adviser, who called Mr. Carlson “Tucker Qatarlson.”
Mr.
Carlson’s frequent foil, Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, echoed that,
posting an altered photo of the host with his legs akimbo and above his head
and another comment about oral sex.
At the
same time, battle lines have also been deepening over the investigation of Mr.
Kirk’s murder in September, which has been the subject of conspiracy theories,
including those spread by Candace Owens, another prominent right-wing
podcaster, who speculated about whether the shooter acted alone.
Those
theories have prompted Mr. Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk, to speak out this week
condemning such speculation.
“Stop.
That’s it. That’s all I have to say. Stop,” Ms. Kirk said in an interview with
Ms. Weiss that will be aired on CBS on Saturday night.
On Mr.
Von’s show, Mr. Carlson, whose own show has featured conspiracy theories about
everything from 9/11 to chemtrails, also waded into this debate, expressing
affection for Ms. Owens and said he didn’t “understand the official story at
all.”
He
cautioned that he wasn’t “alleging anything,” but added that “I just don’t have
a ton of confidence in the F.B.I. or the men who run it,” noting, for instance,
“leaders of the F.B.I. are on Twitter,” an apparent swipe at F.B.I. director
Kash Patel, who is often online.
On
Wednesday, after Mr. Von’s show was posted, Mr. Carlson went back online to
seemingly further explain his comments on Mr. Von’s show, saying that he knew
and loved Charlie and Erika Kirk, and had not meant to insinuate that the
F.B.I. was somehow involved in a cover-up or the assassination itself.
On Mr.
Von’s show, Mr. Carlson characterized his remarks as a commitment “to tell the
truth, no matter what.” But some sensed a professional calculation.
“He is
making every desperate attempt to stay relevant,” said Susan Del Percio, a
Republican consultant, adding, “Even if it means becoming a caricature of
himself.”
Mr.
Carlson’s comments about Ms. Weiss came after Mr. Von, a folksy host with a
credulous demeanor, showed a clip of Ms. Weiss suggesting Mr. Carlson was
“anti-American and anti-Jewish,” sentiments that have also been expressed by
commentators in The Free Press, the “anti-woke” media company she founded.
Mr.
Carlson shot back, calling Ms. Weiss “an idiot,” mendacious, and unqualified
for her post.
“In no
fair system, in no ‘meritocracy’ would Bari Weiss rise above secretary,” Mr.
Carlson said, adding, “There is no world in which Bari Weiss would rise to the
top of a news network except a rigged world.”
Reached
on Thursday, Ms. Weiss — whose appointment at CBS was praised by Mr. Trump —
declined to comment on Mr. Carlson’s remarks.
Mr.
Carlson had also tangled with Mr. Ackman before, suggesting the billionaire was
part of a class of “useless people who have no actual skills” in an appearance
at a Turning Point USA event in July. On Mr. Von’s show, Mr. Carlson continued
his attacks, saying Mr. Ackman was “kind of dumb” and calling his success
“almost a humiliation exercise.”
In a post
on X on Wednesday night, Mr. Ackman shot back, accusing Mr. Carlson of defaming
him in the past and saying he “does not know me.”
“Tucker
is an ignorant P.O.S. who has lost his soul,” Mr. Ackman said, using a
reference to excrement.
Image
Bill
Ackman in a blue suit and tie, microphone by ear. He looks to the side,
background is blurred gray and purple.
The
billionaire Bill Ackman was the subject of some of Mr. Carlson’s criticism. Mr.
Ackman said Mr. Carlson “lost his soul.”Credit...Patrick T. Fallon/Agence
France-Presse — Getty Images
That sort
of crass back-and-forth was also evidenced on Mr. Von’s show, which included
below-the-belt discussions of erectile dysfunction and unconventional methods
of nicotine delivery. But politics and the fractures on the right — and trust
in American institutions — were a constant conversational draw.
Mr.
Carlson’s seeming alienation extended to praising several of Mr. Trump’s most
avid Republican opponents in Congress — Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene
of Georgia and Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky — calling them two of
the “very few honest members of Congress,” and lauding their sincerity.
Mr.
Carlson also seemingly faulted the president for his approach to Israel and
that country’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu: “I love Trump personally. I
still love Trump personally. But it was like that whole election was about
‘We’ve had enough of this.’”
The White
House did not return requests for comment.
Mr.
Carlson, who is an Episcopalian and evinces a country-club confidence, also
repeatedly denied that he was antisemitic during his appearance on Mr. Von’s
show — “I’m totally anti-Nazi. I’m totally anti-hate,” he said — adding that he
was being labeled a Nazi to silence his opinions.
On this
point, Mr. Von jokingly agreed. “If you were a Nazi, you would have a tank or
something,” he said. “You would not be in loafers.”
Jesse
McKinley is a Times reporter covering politics, pop culture, lifestyle and the
confluence of all three.


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