WHITE HOUSE
‘This is deadly stuff’: Tapes show Trump
acknowledging virus threat in February
In a series of on-the-record interviews with Bob
Woodward, the president struck a very different tone about the disease.
President Donald Trump speaks at the Jupiter Inlet
Lighthouse and Museum in Jupiter, Fla., Tuesday, Sept. 8, 2020.
By QUINT
FORGEY and MATTHEW CHOI
09/09/2020
12:50 PM EDT
Updated:
09/09/2020 10:34 PM EDT
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/09/trump-coronavirus-deadly-downplayed-risk-410796
President
Donald Trump acknowledged the “deadly” nature of the coronavirus earlier this
year in a series of recorded interviews with The Washington Post’s Bob
Woodward, even as Trump publicly sought to dismiss the disease’s threat to
Americans.
Recounting
a conversation with Chinese President Xi Jinping, Trump told Woodward on Feb. 7
that the coronavirus is “more deadly than your, you know, your — even your
strenuous flus.”
“This is
more deadly,” he said. “This is five per — you know, this is 5 percent versus 1
percent and less than 1 percent, you know. So, this is deadly stuff.”
Woodward
conducted 18 on-the-record interviews with the president between last December
and July to gather material for the veteran journalist’s forthcoming book on
the Trump White House.
Excerpts of
those conversations were published Wednesday by the Post, including an exchange
between Trump and Woodward in which the president revealed he was eager to
downplay the coronavirus outbreak so as not to alarm Americans.
“I wanted
to always play it down. I still like playing it down,” Trump said on March 19.
“Because I don’t want to create a panic.”
Trump later
defended himself during a White House briefing, emphasizing the notion that he
was trying to prevent panic. He called Woodward's account "just another
political hit job," and said he was acting in the country's best interest,
even calling himself "a cheerleader for this country."
"We
had to show calm," Trump said. "The last thing we can show is panic
or excitement or fear or anything else. We had to take care of the situation we
were given."
When asked
why didn't take more preemptive measures based on his understanding of the
virus before the disease spread in the U.S., Trump said: "You didn't
really think it was going to be to the point where it was." But Trump
acknowledged to Woodward in February how easily transmissible and deadly the
disease was.
When asked
if he felt the outcome of the pandemic could have been different had he been
more forthcoming to the American people, Trump said his response showed
leadership. He declined to take responsibility for not reducing the 200,000
deaths from the disease in the United States, claiming millions more would have
died had he not shut down the country to foreign visitors.
On Wednesday
night, in an interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News, the president again said
that his actions saved many lives, and he praised his administration’s handling
of the pandemic.
“We
could’ve lost 2 million, 2.5 million, maybe even more than that if we did it a
different way, and we’ve done a really good job,“ Trump said .”But if you look
at our numbers, our fatality numbers compared to other countries, we are in
really — I mean, it’s amazing what we’ve done.“
The
damaging recordings come in the final weeks of a general election campaign
which has seen the coronavirus emerge as the most important issue to voters,
and as the White House is already deflecting reports of Trump disparaging the
U.S. military and America’s war dead.
The new
interviews include a variety of other explosive statements from the president
on issues of racial justice, foreign affairs and national defense, with Trump
revealing that he had “built a nuclear — a weapons system that nobody’s ever
had in this country before.”
“We have
stuff that you haven’t even seen or heard about. We have stuff that Putin and
Xi have never heard about before. There’s nobody — what we have is incredible,”
Trump told Woodward, whose sources confirmed that the military had developed a
new secret weapons system, according to the Post.
The
president also reportedly makes denigrating remarks about his own military
officials that echo other media accounts of his frustration with the Pentagon’s
top brass. Trump told White House trade adviser Peter Navarro that “my fucking
generals are a bunch of pussies” who “care more about their alliances than they
do about trade deals,” Woodward reports.
Democratic
presidential nominee Joe Biden fiercely condemned Trump during a campaign stop
in Michigan, saying his remarks to Woodward represented a “life-and-death
betrayal of the American people.”
“He
knowingly and willingly lied about the threat [the coronavirus] posed to the
country for months,” Biden said. “He had the information. He knew how dangerous
it was. And while this deadly disease ripped through our nation, he failed to
do his job on purpose.”
White House
press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, who delayed her scheduled news briefing by
more than an hour Wednesday upon the publication of the interview excerpts,
told reporters that Trump’s rosy assessments of the outbreak “embodied the
American spirit” and argued that “when you’re facing insurmountable challenges,
it’s important to express confidence. It’s important to express calm.”
McEnany
also maintained that the president “has never lied to the American public on
Covid” and “never downplayed the virus” — despite Trump’s acknowledgment to
Woodward that he did just that, as well as numerous dismissive statements from
Trump regarding the coronavirus.
Trump
tweeted on Feb. 24 that the “Coronavirus is very much under control in the
USA.” During a Feb. 25 news conference in New Delhi, he said the disease “is
very well under control in our country,” and that “as far as what we’re doing
with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job.”
On Feb. 26,
Trump predicted that “within a couple of days,” the number of Covid-19
infections in the U.S. “is going to be down to close to zero.” And on Feb. 28,
he said “it’s going to disappear … like a miracle.”
Trump
compared the country’s coronavirus deaths to the flu’s annual death toll on
March 9, noting on Twitter that “nothing is shut down, life & the economy
go on.” On March 10, he urged Americans to “just stay calm” because “it will go
away,” and he said again on March 12 that “it’s going to go away.”
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