Conflict
over identity politics could lead to civil war in long term, says Badenoch
4 June
2026
Nick Watt Political editor, Newsnight
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9pll8943no
Conflict
over identity politics in the UK could lead to civil war in the long term, Kemi
Badenoch has said.
In an
interview for a BBC Radio 4 documentary, England's Identity Crisis, the
Conservative leader warned of rising tensions as groups on the left and the
right direct "more and more hostility" towards people of every
ethnicity.
The
Conservative leader censured parties that use the political conflict to target
voters from one community, an ingredient that she says could lead to an
eventual civil war.
The
interview was conducted before political tension erupted over policing,
following the release of bodycam footage showing the handcuffing of murdered
teenager Henry Nowak as he lay dying.
Both
Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer and Badenoch have called
for politicians not to stoke division following the outcry about the
teenager's murder, and subsequent protests on the streets of Southampton.
Speaking
to the BBC for the documentary before the sentencing of Nowak's killer Vickrum
Digwa, Badenoch said: "This is not a racist country. But now we are seeing
more and more hostility to people of every ethnicity, whether they're English
or not English, because people are bringing political conflict into an area
where we didn't have political conflict.
"And
it's the political conflict, I think, that is creating this tension.
"This
is why it's really important that politicians understand this properly and have
policies that make a difference, rather than use the political conflict as a
way to get some votes from one particular community.
"Parties
which do that, politicians who do that, they may get to benefit in the short
term, but in the long term, that's how you end up with civil war."
When
asked whether she was saying that the way to avoid a civil war was to avoid
"fracturing" in society, she said: "We definitely need to avoid
that fracturing, but we also need to focus on assimilation."
Badenoch
did not name any political parties, but in the wake of the Gorton and Denton
by-election in February she said it was "appalling that separatist
campaigning was carried out in Urdu by the Green Party".
Hannah
Spencer won the seat for the Green Party of England and Wales with a majority
of 4,402. The Green Party was approached for comment.
The
Conservative leader stressed that she was outlining a long term threat. Asked
if the UK is potentially in civil war territory if this is not resolved,
Badenoch said: "Not any time soon. No, I don't think we're potentially in
a civil war scenario now.
"But
if we don't sort it now, then we're leaving a much worse country to our
children. We're leaving them to sort out some very complicated things."
The
debate about English national identity has taken on a harder edge over the past
year after some figures on the right said that Englishness cannot be acquired
because it is related to ancestry.
This view
came to prominence in February 2025 when the Russian-born podcaster Konstantin
Kisin suggested that Rishi Sunak should be considered as British but not
English because he is a "brown Hindu".
Kisin
made his remarks after the political journalist Fraser Nelson told him on the
Triggernometry podcast that the Southampton-born former Conservative prime
minister is wholly English.
The GB
News presenter and Reform UK supporter Matt Goodwin, told the Radio 4
documentary that he agreed with the idea that Englishness is related to
ancestry.
"I
view Britishness as a nationality and Englishness as an ethnicity," he
said.
Reform UK
leader Nigel Farage has said he does not want to draw "ethnic lines"
on what being English is.
Speaking
for the documentary, Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy was critical of the idea that
nationality has to be related to ancestry.
Nandy,
who is of mixed Indian and British heritage, said: "I do think it is a bit
offensive to be honest. But I also think if it's designed to sort of appeal to
working class communities like mine in Wigan, I don't think it has that effect
at all."
A poll
last year by More in Common suggested that 74% of English people believe that
someone can be English regardless of their skin colour or ethnic background.
The
Conservative leader said that part of Englishness is related to ancestry, but
said there was another, civic side – the need to show an emotional commitment
to the culture and values of the country.
"I
believe that I am English when it comes to that civic identity. It's where I
live. It's where I love, it's the football team that I support. But it's not in
my blood. But it is in my children's blood and this is why I say it's a
spectrum. It's very complicated."
Badenoch
also said that nationalists in Scotland and Wales, who now run both devolved
governments for the first time, had contributed to the worsening atmosphere.
In
explaining her thinking about the long term threat of a possible civil war,
Badenoch criticised elements on both the left and the right of the political
spectrum.
She
criticised some on the left for attacking English identity by criticising the
empire and using phrases like white privilege. That, she said, has provoked a
"backlash" which has led to ethno-nationalism – the idea that a
national identity can only be derived through ancestry.
"We
should stop trying to look for different ways to divide people and look for
ways to bring people together," she said.
England's
Identity Crisis is on BBC Radio 4 at 1.30pm on Sunday 7 June and from now on
BBC Sounds

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