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Trump talks with white nationalist Nick Fuentes
at Mar-a-Lago dinner
Jonathan
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Jonathan
Swan
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https://www.axios.com/2022/11/25/trump-nick-fuentes-ye-kanye
Nick
Fuentes (center) with Alex Jones at a "Stop the Steal" rally in
Georgia on Nov. 19, 2020. Photo: Zach Roberts/NurPhoto via Getty Images
Former
President Trump dined and conversed with white nationalist Nick Fuentes and
rapper Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Tuesday
night, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
Why it
matters: Trump's direct engagement with a man labeled a "white
supremacist" by the Justice Department, one week after declaring his 2024
candidacy, is likely to draw renewed outrage over the former president's
embrace of extremists.
Fuentes,
who frequently promotes racist and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, had been
spotted with Ye at Mar-a-Lago, but reports erroneously suggested he did not
have dinner with the former president.
What
they're saying: "Kanye West very much wanted to visit Mar-a-Lago. Our
dinner meeting was intended to be Kanye and me only, but he arrived with a
guest whom I had never met and knew nothing about," Trump said in a
statement.
A Trump
spokesman did not provide comment on additional reporting about the dinner.
Fuentes did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Behind the
scenes: A source familiar with the dinner conversation told Axios that Trump "seemed
very taken" with Fuentes, impressed that the 24-year-old was able to
rattle off statistics and recall speeches dating back to his 2016 campaign.
Paraphrasing
the conversation, the source said Fuentes told the president he preferred him
to be "authentic," and that Trump seemed scripted and unlike himself
during his recent 2024 campaign announcement speech.
Trump
responded, “You like it better when I just speak off the cuff," the source
said. Fuentes replied that he did, calling Trump an "amazing" president
when he was unrestrained. "There was a lot of fawning back and
forth," the source added.
Fuentes
told Trump that he represented a side of Trump's base that was disappointed
with his newly cautious approach, especially with what some far-right activists
view as a lack of support for those charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.
Trump
didn't disagree with Fuentes, but said he has advisers who want him to read off
teleprompters and be more "presidential." Notably, Trump referred to
himself as a politician, which he has been loathe to do in the past.
Fuentes
also told Trump that he would crush potential 2024 Republican rivals in a
primary, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. Trump asked for Fuentes' opinion
on other candidates as well.
Trump at
one point turned to Ye and said, "I really like this guy. He gets
me," according to the source.
"To be
honest, I don't believe the president knew who the hell [Fuentes] was,"
the source added.
Trump asked
if Fuentes was on social media such as Truth Social, the former president's
alternative to Twitter.
Fuentes
told Trump that he was on Truth Social but had been banned from the social
media platform Gettr because Trump adviser Jason Miller, the CEO of the
company, wasn't a fan of his.
Trump asked
whether it was because Fuentes was on the "fringe" of his supporter
base, the source said. Fuentes acknowledged that he was, saying he's "one
of those people who got banned from everything."
Driving the
news: Ye, whose Twitter account was recently restored after being restricted
for anti-Semitic comments, posted a video on Thursday night titled "Mar-a-Lago
debrief."
Ye claims
in the video that Trump was "really impressed" with Fuentes because
"unlike so many of the lawyers and so many people that he was left with on
his 2020 campaign, he's actually a loyalist."
A source
familiar with the conversation told Axios Trump took a phone call during the
dinner, and his demeanor toward Ye seemed to change when he got off the call.
Trump made some nasty comments about Ye's ex-wife, Kim Kardashian, and told the
rapper to pass them on.
Ye, who has
lost major sponsorships over his anti-Semitism and recent far-right
associations, has said he wants to run for president in 2024. The rapper claims
Trump started "screaming" at him at the dinner and told him he would
lose — "most perturbed" by Ye asking Trump to be his running mate.
Between the
lines: The Daily Beast reported Wednesday that Fuentes was not present at the
Mar-a-Lago dinner with Ye, citing a source familiar with the matter.
Ye tweeted
out a screenshot of a group text with Fuentes on Thursday night in which a
censored participant accuses a Trump adviser of being the source for the Daily
Beast story.
Disgraced
far-right commentator Milo Yiannopoulos, who appears with Ye in his
"Mar-a-Lago debrief" video, is also in the "YE24" group
chat.
Fuentes
first gained notoriety after attending the white supremacist "Unite the
Right" rally in Charlottesville in 2017.
Trump was
heavily criticized at the time for his response to the racist violence.
Editor's
note: This story has been updated with additional reporting and a statement
from Trump.
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