Jan. 6 Panel Votes to Subpoena Trump as It Wraps
Up Its Case
“He must be accountable,” the committee’s chairman
said as it presented a sweeping summation of its findings. But the prospect of
the former president testifying appeared unlikely.
By Luke
Broadwater and Alan Feuer
Oct. 13,
2022
Updated
9:30 p.m. ET
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/us/politics/heres-what-to-expect-from-the-jan-6-hearing.html
WASHINGTON
— The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol voted on
Thursday to subpoena former President Donald J. Trump as it presented a
sweeping summation of its case placing him at the center of a calculated,
multipart effort to overturn the 2020 election, beginning even before Election
Day.
At what may
have been its final public hearing and just weeks before midterm elections in
which control of Congress is at stake, the panel knit together evidence and
testimony from its nine previous presentations while introducing new
revelations about Mr. Trump’s central role in numerous plots to maintain power.
The
committee laid out in vivid detail how Mr. Trump, enraged and embarrassed that
he had lost the election and unwilling to accept that fact, sought to join the
crowd he had summoned to Washington on Jan. 6, 2021, as it marched to the
Capitol — knowing that some of his supporters were armed and threatening
violence as Congress met to certify his defeat.
“None of
this is normal, acceptable or lawful in our republic,” said Representative Liz
Cheney, Republican of Wyoming and the committee’s vice chairwoman.
The
committee also showed previously unreleased video from the secure location
where congressional leaders hunkered down while the Capitol was under attack.
The footage offered a glimpse of the shock and disbelief that gripped them as
they urgently phoned governors and top national security officials in efforts
to summon the National Guard or get Mr. Trump to call off the assault.
After
nearly two and a half hours, the committee wrapped up with a direct challenge
to the former president, voting to subpoena him to appear for a formal
deposition, a step that is exceedingly unlikely given his refusal to cooperate
in the inquiry, and could lead to a bitter legal battle.
“He is the
one person at the center of the story of what happened on Jan. 6,” said Bennie
Thompson, Democrat of Mississippi and the committee’s chairman.
“He must be
accountable,” Mr. Thompson added. “He is required to answer for his actions.”
The former
president publicly attacked the committee, but has been telling aides privately
that he favors testifying before the panel as long as he gets to do so live,
according to a person familiar with his discussions. The lawmakers have
rejected similar demands from other witnesses, but preliminary discussions
among the panel members indicated more openness to a live interview with Mr.
Trump.
Either way,
the vote was an extraordinary turn of events given that Mr. Trump, who has made
little secret of his eagerness to run for re-election in 2024, continues to
exert heavy influence on the Republican Party, whose ranks are filled with
election deniers who embrace the lies that inspired the Capitol attack.
The hearing
on Thursday came at a pivotal moment, weeks before elections in which
Republicans are favored to win the House majority and as time is most likely
running out for the panel to complete its work, including an extensive report
on its findings. Should Republicans win control in November, they would be all
but certain to disband the committee in January and shut down any further
official accounting by Congress for the most severe attack on the Capitol in
centuries.
So on
Thursday, the committee sought to dramatize the stakes of its work.
In one
particularly chilling segment of the hearing, the panel played video of Speaker
Nancy Pelosi huddling with other congressional leaders after being evacuated
from the Capitol, reaching out to law enforcement and military officials and
begging for the National Guard to help put down the violence.
“Do you
believe this?” Ms. Pelosi says to colleagues as she receives reports that
lawmakers are donning gas masks on the House floor to prepare for a breach.
Later,
Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, is seen speaking
loudly into his signature flip phone, apparently during a call with Jeffrey A.
Rosen, then the acting attorney general, imploring him to get Mr. Trump to ask
his supporters to leave the Capitol, where Mr. Schumer notes that some senators
are still hiding in their offices.
“Why don’t
you get the president to tell them to leave the Capitol, Mr. Attorney General,
in your law enforcement responsibility?” Mr. Schumer said.
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The
stunning behind-the-scenes look came as the panel delivered what amounted to a
closing argument to an investigation that began 15 months ago. Members took
turns laying out an indictment of Mr. Trump, telling a story that began in the
summer of 2020 and, by their own account, has still not ended.
Well before
any votes were cast, the committee members said, Mr. Trump had hatched a plan
to simply claim victory on Election Day.
“The
ballots counted by the Election Day deadline show the American people have
bestowed on me the great honor of re-election to president of the United States
— the deadline by which voters in states across the country must choose a
president,” Tom Fitton, a right-wing activist who heads the group Judicial
Watch, suggested Mr. Trump say in a statement, effectively discounting lawfully
cast early and absentee votes.
Mr. Fitton,
who offered the advice days before the election, indicated in a text message
presented by the panel that he had discussed the idea with Mr. Trump.
And the
committee showed how the president embraced that approach, despite the advice
of aides who told him on election night that he could not say he had won. With
a coterie of allies, Mr. Trump then sought to stave off his defeat by spreading
lies that voting across the country had been marred by widespread fraud.
“This big
lie, President Trump’s effort to convince Americans that he had won the 2020
election, began before the election results even came in,” said Representative
Zoe Lofgren, Democrat of California. “It was intentional, it was premeditated,
it was not based on election results or any evidence of actual fraud affecting
the results or any actual problems with voting machines.”
Even though
dozens of courts ruled against him and his own advisers ultimately told him to
concede, Mr. Trump stubbornly ignored the facts, the committee said, and
aggressively pressured state officials, strong-armed Justice Department leaders
and sought to create fake slates of electors in states that had been won by
Joseph R. Biden Jr.
Then, with
his hold on power slipping, Mr. Trump called a crowd to Washington on Jan. 6,
mobilizing both ordinary supporters and far-right extremists, some of whom had
expressed their violent intentions in the days leading up to the event, the
committee said. As hundreds of people stormed the Capitol that day, assaulting
police officers and disrupting the certification of the election, Mr. Trump
effectively turned his back on the chaos he helped sow.
Chief among
the new revelations at the hearing was that the Secret Service was aware before
Jan. 6 that some Trump supporters were using online forums to discuss plans for
violence, including plots to storm the Capitol. Mr. Trump and key members of
his security detail knew on the day of the attack that many people in the crowd
that had gathered to hear him speak in Washington were carrying weapons and
were possibly dangerous, the committee said.
The panel
plans to continue investigating the Secret Service’s role in Jan. 6, including
testimony it has received about “potential obstruction” and “advice given not
to tell the committee” about certain incidents, said Representative Pete
Aguilar, Democrat of California and a committee member.
The panel
presented more evidence that Mr. Trump had been told by several of his own top
advisers, including his daughter Ivanka Trump and former Secretary of State
Mike Pompeo, that he had lost the election and should abide by the decisions of
more than 60 courts that had ruled against his claims of fraud.
But Mr.
Trump, mortified by his losses in court, could not bear to do so, according to
a recorded interview with Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to Mark Meadows, Mr.
Trump’s final chief of staff.
“He said
something to the effect of: ‘I don’t want people to know we lost, Mark. This is
embarrassing,’” Ms. Hutchinson recalled in the interview.
Still, it
was unclear whether the panel would have a chance to hear from Mr. Trump
himself. Several former presidents voluntarily testified before Congress —
including Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Herbert Hoover, Harry S.
Truman and Gerald R. Ford — but there is no Supreme Court precedent that says
whether Congress has the power to compel a former president to testify about
his actions in office.
And two
former presidents have been issued congressional subpoenas, John Quincy Adams
and John Tyler. While Mr. Tyler testified, Mr. Adams submitted a deposition.
Mr.
Thompson told reporters after the hearing that the panel did not plan to
subpoena Vice President Mike Pence, who was the target of Mr. Trump’s pressure
campaign to overturn the election.
Ms. Cheney,
who has arguably been the driving force behind the committee and recently lost
a bid to keep her seat in a primary against a Trump-backed challenger, closed the
hearing by suggesting that the panel had evidence to make a criminal referral
of Mr. Trump to the Justice Department.
Then Ms.
Cheney called for the full committee to vote on whether to issue the subpoena
to Mr. Trump.
“We are
obligated to seek answers from the man who set this all in motion,” she said.
“And every American is entitled to those answers.”
Every
member voted aye.
Maggie
Haberman, Charlie Savage and Stephanie Lai contributed reporting.
Luke
Broadwater covers Congress. He was the lead reporter on a series of
investigative articles at The Baltimore Sun that won a Pulitzer Prize and a
George Polk Award in 2020. @lukebroadwater
Alan Feuer
covers extremism and political violence. He joined The Times in 1999. @alanfeuer
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