Elon Musk
says he got ‘carried away’ with Trump – but still holds on to contentious
political views
In
interview, billionaire says instead of running ‘Doge’ he should’ve ‘worked on
my companies’ and shares extreme predictions
Richard
Luscombe
Thu 23
Jul 2026 16.27 BST
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jul/23/elon-musk-regret-trump-doge-ai
Elon Musk
has admitted he became too consumed by politics during his volatile alliance
with Donald Trump and his brief appointment as the president’s financial axman,
running the so-called “department of government efficiency” (Doge).
The
world’s richest person, and briefly its first trillionaire after his SpaceX
company floated on the New York stock exchange in June, made the confession in
a wide-ranging interview with the Economist published on Thursday. He shared
his positions on subjects from foreign wars to AI, and made a number of
eye-opening predictions for the future.
“I got
carried away, frankly,” Musk said of his relationship with the president, whom
he helped get elected in 2024 with $200m in financial backing, then served
during his controversial tenure as head of Doge, overseeing $150bn in “harmful”
budget cuts and forcing tens of thousands of people out of federal jobs.
The owner
of Tesla did not expand on the statement, but appeared cognizant of the impact
of his dalliance with the levers of power in Washington DC.
In
December, he offered in a podcast with Katie Miller, wife of Trump’s White
House adviser Stephen Miller, that his wrecking-ball approach to the federal
government had been only partially successful, and that given the opportunity
he probably wouldn’t do it again.
“I think
instead of doing Doge, I would have basically worked on my companies,” he said
at the time.
Talking
to the Economist, however, he appeared to relish the attention his political
involvement had garnered, and the influence he believed he exerted. “People
don’t realize that what I’m saying will come to pass,” he said, the outlet
referring to Musk – at least in his own mind – as a modern-day Cassandra.
The
interview, a 90-minute conversation for the publication’s video platform The
Insider, recorded at a Tesla factory in Texas, was Musk’s first since the
SpaceX flotation, in which his personal wealth briefly topped $1.25tn before
dropping back to a relatively penurious $750bn.
He
reflected on moving from “exhilaration to terror” in a single day, but was not
referring to the SpaceX share price. Instead, he was talking about artificial
intelligence, which he believes will ultimately render work by humans
“optional”.
AI
systems and robots will eventually handle most digital and physical jobs, he
said, and the merger of his own AI venture with SpaceX will allow him to
develop systems to perform cognitive tasks such as software programming while
Tesla manufactures humanoids.
Musk, the
Economist said, plans to power his AI venture with datacenters in space, which
experts have warned will be “catastrophic” for Earth.
Within
five years, Musk said, AI intelligence systems may surpass the sum of all human
intelligence. Within 10 years, robots in the workplace will help usher in an
era of such “amazing abundance” that money will become meaningless.
It was,
however, Musk’s political views, and predictions, that were perhaps the most
contentious parts of the interview. The UK, a country he has not visited for
years, but whose politics, especially on immigration and race, have become a
recent obsession, will become engulfed in a civil war within 20 years, he
claimed.
Asked if
he was anti-Muslim, Musk attacked the questioner, a policy of diversion similar
to that which has served Trump well, and which he has employed previously,
notably calling the Guardian “irrelevant” when it decided to withdraw from his
“toxic” social media platform X.
“I’m
against rape and murder. I’m against the imposition of rules and laws that are
contrary to what we’ve come to accept in the west,” he said. “It’s a crying
shame that traditional media, like you, don’t recognize this.”
He
described the media’s characterization of Europe’s far right as “false,
misleading and nonsense”, and argued that it was made up of “normal people”
seeking safe cities, secure borders and sensible spending, the Economist said.
In an
analysis piece accompanying the interview, the outlet acknowledged that Musk
was a divisive figure. “His political views, disseminated to his 240m followers
on X, strike many as plain-speaking and strike many more, including The
Economist, as plainly bigoted,” it wrote.
“But he
is also one of a handful of men who are pioneering AI and who thereby have an
outsize influence on its trajectory. When he speaks, he reflects the debates
they are having. His datacentres in space could power AI’s future.
“For all
his political polemics, he has a record of being right about technology in
fields such as electric cars, rockets and satellite communications that
confounded other engineers and entrepreneurs.”
Another
Musk prediction: after AI destroys jobs, there may need to be a large-scale
wealth redistribution to create “universal high income” for humans.
He said
he would be willing to pay “trillions in tax” then, conversely, argued that
money will become irrelevant inside 10 years. In which eventuality, he said,
governments should “issue people cheques”, because, he said, amid an infinite
supply of goods and services produced by machines, deflation will be a bigger
problem than inflation.
He also
shared thoughts about the Ukraine war, in which his Starlink satellites have
been used to help that country’s military against Russia’s aggression. Despite
this, Musk said any peace deal should include territorial gains for Russia.
The
interview concluded with an assessment by Musk of his achievements and
ambitious current projects, in AI and in space, a field in which he has also
made a number of bold predictions. He said in 2024 that humans could set foot
on Mars by 2028 (currently Nasa is targeting 2028 for a return to the moon,
which many analysts think is unlikely).
The
universe, Musk said, according to the Economist, could be a computer simulation
created by aliens. “The things I’m doing are so preposterous that it’s hard to
believe they’re real,” he said.
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