Opinion
Does
Humanity Have a Future?
Jan. 31,
2025
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/31/opinion/andreessen-bannon.html
Ross Douthat
By Ross
Douthat
Opinion
Columnist
Two weeks
ago, I interviewed Marc Andreessen, the venture capitalist and leading figure
of the nascent tech right, for the “Matter of Opinion” podcast; this week I
interviewed Steve Bannon, the vintage MAGA populist. Both conversations contain
enough material for several newsletters, but both are especially useful for
illustrating a point I pressed in last week’s column: that there is a surface
unity in President Trump’s coalition on the issues of this
executive-order-dominated moment, from anti-wokeness to deportations to
reshaping the administrative state, but profound philosophical tensions
underneath.
And the
tech-populist tension is potentially one of the deepest, with implications that
extend far beyond one presidential administration. To Andreessen, joining with
Trumpism and the right is an opportunity for Silicon Valley to slip free of
both the ideological shackles imposed by woke progressivism and, more
important, the regulatory shackles that the Biden administration wanted to
impose on rapidly advancing frontier technologies, artificial intelligence
above all.
To Bannon,
the idea of Silicon Valley unbound is, first, a variation on the kind of
neoliberal globalism that Trump campaigned against in 2016, and second, a
potentially dystopian path to a post-human future, where the elite aspires to a
cyborg existence and machine intelligence makes ordinary human beings
increasingly obsolete.
I think you
can tell which vision feels more secure about its influence in the Trump White
House right now by the fact that Andreessen conspicuously declined my
invitation to pick fights with other right-wing factions while Bannon entered
our interview spoiling for a battle with the tech “oligarchs” and their
“technofeudalism.” For now, the populists are having their way on various
issues, but not on anything related to reining in Silicon Valley. The Trump
inauguration may have paraded the lords of tech like defeated generals in a
Roman triumph, but Trump himself seems eager to work with all of them, and to
push more and more chips (so to speak) into the A.I. race especially, whatever
post-human perils it might hold.
How this
dynamic changes will depend on many factors, but above all on the question of
just how far and fast A.I. can go. And without definitely answering that
question, it’s really important for lay readers to understand that many of the
people intimately involved with A.I. expect it to go very fast and very far
indeed, toward a godlike superintelligence and some sort of marriage of human
and machine. Bannon’s dystopian warnings may sound paranoid, but they point to
possibilities that are actually close to what a lot of very smart people in
Silicon Valley confidently expect.
These
expectations may turn out to be mistaken; my own sense is that there’s deep
misunderstanding about consciousness at the core of a lot of A.I. work. But
just the fact that such wild expectations exist is a notable fact about our
moment, and almost certainly A.I. is going to have some big reshaping influence
on the next four years and far beyond them. For that reason, the questions
about the human future that you see dividing Andreessen and Bannon — and
potentially dividing the wider tech right from other Trumpist constituencies,
populist and religious and the crunchy/holistic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. faction —
deserve at least as much attention as all the more immediate fights the Trump
White House is picking over ordinary forms of policy.
I will be
giving these questions more attention in the near future, after this newsletter
spends a few weeks on religious matters, arguing through some of the issues
raised in my new book on why you (yes, you) should be religious. For now,
though, I just want to say something about why, despite the obvious gulf
between these two podcast interviewees, I still believe in some kind of
synthesis — tech with trad, Muskian with Vancian, vaulting techno-futurism with
a defense of humanism and the common man — as an alternative to existential
conflict.
Right now,
two premises guide my sense of the human situation. First: The virtual age and
its advances are making a lot of normal human ways of life and cultural forms
seem obsolete, and this sense of obsolescence is only going to increase with
the spread of A.I., regardless of whether it achieves some sort of machine-god
breakthrough.
That
obsolescence is not, emphasis not, manifesting itself first and foremost in a
crude economistic fashion, where robots take everybody’s jobs. That stage may
come, but for now the dangers are more sociological and spiritual: People are
still working (albeit perhaps with less enthusiasm), but increasingly they
aren’t dating and marrying and having children, making real-life friends and
forming communities and experiencing and transmitting culture in the ways that
were normal even 20 or 50 years ago. The fertility crash around the world has
many causes, but at a deep level I suspect it reflects a sense that normal ways
of human life, whether in Chile or South Korea or Seattle, are now somehow
unimportant or foredoomed.
But second:
The same virtual and A.I. age is also connected to the major forms of dynamism
in human affairs, the aspirations to go to Mars or build a new supersonic jet
or figure out a cure for cancer, and attempts to create sealed-off zones that
protect older ways of life from the threat of obsolescence just don’t seem to
work. Whether the sealing off is socialist or populist, secular-humanist or
Catholic, it still yields stagnation and decline, empty cradles and emptying
provinces, at best a cozy form of anomie and at worst outright despair.
Separation
can work if you really seal things off: The Amish, at least, aren’t going to
become obsolete. But Europe as a social-democratic fortress of traditional
architecture, good food and short work weeks probably isn’t going to make it.
Hungary and Poland as redoubts of nationalist Christianity probably aren’t
going to make it. My own New England as a hygge home for aging liberal
humanists who don’t much care for tech is going to diminish and be overshadowed
by the more Promethean America of the Sun Belt.
So what does
this mean for the human race? Let me steal, not for the first time, an idea
from Frank Herbert’s “Dune” saga, in which his morally complicated messiah
figures discern with psychic powers what he calls a “Golden Path” for humanity
— a perilous road between extinction and stagnation, a narrow way into a better
future.
That’s what
I feel like we’re groping for as a species, and that America and Americans are
probably most likely to discover: a way through this perilous
social-technological moment, in which the digital age is accepted in some form
but also tamed, mastered, humanized; in which the dynamist impulse is honored,
not rejected, but also somehow channeled toward better ends than what some of
the Silicon Valley post-humanists envision; in which the old ways of being
human are remade in forms that are more resilient against both virtual
blandishments and competition from machines.
More, as
they say, to come.
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