Trump vs.
Mamdani: The Showdown to Come
President
Trump has berated Zohran Mamdani, the mayor-elect of New York City, in public.
But privately, Mr. Trump describes him as slick and a good talker.
Tyler
Pager
By Tyler
Pager
Tyler
Pager is a White House correspondent. He reported from Washington.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/05/us/politics/trump-mamdani-showdown.html
Nov. 5,
2025
In
public, President Trump has spent weeks disparaging Zohran Mamdani as an
extremist, a communist and a danger to New York City.
He has
also insisted he is “much better looking” than the 34-year-old Mr. Mamdani.
But in
private, Mr. Trump has described Mr. Mamdani, now the mayor-elect of New York
City, as a talented politician, calling him slick and a good talker, according
to two people who discussed the president’s comments on condition of anonymity.
Despite
the grudging compliment, the two men appear to be headed for a showdown,
pitting the young democratic socialist against a president who has already
treated him as a useful foil. For Mr. Trump, the mayor-elect is the face of
Democratic opposition; just hours after Mr. Mamdani’s once-improbable victory,
the president said that Democrats were “crazy” and so was “Mamdani, or whatever
the hell his name is.”
Mr.
Trump’s aides and allies acknowledge that Mr. Mamdani and New York City are
likely to be the next targets of the president’s attacks, even as some caution
that Mr. Trump has a vested interest in New York’s financial success because of
his multiple real estate holdings.
On
Wednesday, Mr. Trump even said he might “help him a little bit maybe” because
he wanted New York City to succeed.
Still,
the president has already threatened to withhold federal money “other than the
very minimum as required” from the city, although he cannot legally hold back
money that Congress has authorized, with narrow exceptions. (When the
administration has tried to withhold federal funds from cities over immigration
policy, it has consistently lost in court.)
There are
dozens of different funding streams to New York City from the federal
government including money for health care, transportation and law enforcement,
and if the administration were to withhold expected funds for any of those, it
would most likely result in a lawsuit.
Mr.
Mamdani, for his part, seems ready for that fight. In his victory speech, he
challenged Mr. Trump directly, vowing to fight back against federal efforts to
meddle in New York.
“So
Donald Trump, since I know you’re watching, I have four words for you,” he
said, taunting the TV-watching president. “Turn the volume up.”
(The
White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, later confirmed that Mr. Trump
was, indeed, watching.)
Mr.
Mamdani said that he would not be cowed by the president’s threats and that New
York City would provide the playbook for how to defeat Mr. Trump and his
political movement.
“So hear
me, President Trump, when I say this: To get to any of us, you will have to get
through all of us,” he said.
Mr.
Mamdani may have few, if any, levers to fight back against the Trump
administration other than litigation. The mayor-elect has vowed to hire 200
additional lawyers to the city’s law department, partly to stand up to what his
campaign described as “presidential excess.”
In his
second term, Mr. Trump has repeatedly shown his willingness, and at times
eagerness, to use the levers of the federal government to exact revenge on his
opponents. He has already cut billions of dollars in federal grants to states
and cities run by Democrats, including New York City. He has sent the National
Guard into Democratic-run cities against their wishes. And he has instructed
the Justice Department to prosecute his political opponents, including the
attorney general of New York.
But some
allies of the president privately said Mr. Mamdani’s victory could prove useful
to Mr. Trump, allowing him to replicate a playbook he has long deployed to
demonize Democratic leaders — such as former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi;
Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York; and George
Soros, the billionaire supporter of Democrats — to further his political
agenda.
Since Mr.
Mamdani won a surprise victory in the Democratic primary, Mr. Trump and his
allies have tagged him as the future of the party, seeking to paint the
Democratic Party as extreme. On Wednesday, as Mr. Trump assailed Democrats for
allowing transgender women and girls to compete in women’s sports, the
president lumped Mr. Mamdani into the fold.
“He
thinks it’s wonderful to have men playing in women’s sports,” Mr. Trump said.
Mr.
Mamdani has promised to defend the rights of transgender New Yorkers and to
make the city a “sanctuary city” for L.G.B.T.Q. residents in the face of Mr.
Trump’s policies targeting transgender people. He has not explicitly addressed
the athletes issue, and a spokeswoman pointed to his record.
Mr.
Mamdani — who says he is a democratic socialist, not a communist — seems
unafraid of mixing it up with the president, and on Wednesday morning, he
dismissed concerns that he had sought to provoke Mr. Trump in his victory
speech.
“I will
work with the president if he wants to work together to deliver on his campaign
promises of cheaper groceries or a lower cost of living,” the mayor-elect said
in an interview on NY1. But, he repeated, “if the president looks to come after
the people of this city, then I will be there standing up for them every step
of the way.”
David
Axelrod, a Democratic strategist and a longtime adviser to former President
Barack Obama, said some of Mr. Mamdani’s comments about Mr. Trump were
“unnecessary playground stuff.”
“I don’t
think that getting into a trolling contest with Trump is a very valuable thing
to do, but standing firm when he is essentially waging a war on the city, that
I think is required,” he said. “The question is: How do you challenge the
president and still leave room for the idea that you’re going to be mayor for
the whole city?”
Mr.
Trump, a born-and-raised New Yorker, is deeply concerned with the city’s
affairs. His advisers tried to meddle in the race to sink Mr. Mamdani, though
they were unsuccessful, and Mr. Trump campaigned for president multiple times
in New York City last year, even though its residents reliably support
Democrats.
And so,
some of the president’s allies in New York are encouraging him to take a more
diplomatic approach to the city.
John
Catsimatidis, a billionaire grocery and oil magnate in New York, said he told
the president not to hold back money that would help New Yorkers. He also said
he did not think the president needed to send the military into the city.
Instead, he recommended to Mr. Trump that the federal government closely
monitor all federal funds that are distributed to New York City.
“They’re
not going to send him money and allow him to spend it the way he is going to
want,” he said, adding, “I think he’ll monitor the situation very closely
because he cares about New York.”
Reporting
was contributed by Michael Gold and Dana Rubinstein in New York and Devlin
Barrett and Zolan Kanno-Youngs in Washington.
Tyler
Pager is a White House correspondent for The Times, covering President Trump
and his administration.


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