Jan 25,
2026 –
https://www.axios.com/2026/01/25/cruz-trump-vance-secret-tapes
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In secret recordings, Cruz trashes Trump tariffs, Vance
Sen. Ted
Cruz, the Texas Republican eyeing a 2028 White House run, torched Vice
President Vance and ridiculed President Trump's tariff policy during private
meetings with donors, according to recordings obtained by Axios.
Why it
matters: Cruz's rebukes, during two meetings last year, are some of the
harshest criticisms of Trump and Vance by a fellow Republican since they took
office a year ago.
The
recordings — nearly 10 minutes in total — provide an unvarnished look at how
Cruz is positioning himself as a traditional free trade, pro-interventionist
Republican ahead of a possible 2028 primary campaign against the less hawkish
Vance.
Zoom in:
During his talks, Cruz cast Vance as a pawn of conservative podcaster Tucker
Carlson. Cruz has accused Carlson of promoting antisemitism and an anti-Israel
foreign policy in their well-publicized spats.
The
recordings of Cruz were provided to Axios by a Republican source. They were
made in early and middle 2025.
In the
latter recording, Cruz warns donors that Trump's tariffs could decimate the
economy and lead to his impeachment.
He tells
them that after Trump introduced the tariffs in early April 2025, Cruz and a
few other senators had a call with Trump in which they urged him to stand down.
Cruz says the lengthy call, which stretched past midnight, "did not go
well," and that Trump was "yelling" and "cursing."
"Trump
was in a bad mood," Cruz tells the donors. "I've been in
conversations where he was very happy. This was not one of them."
Cruz says
he told Trump: "Mr. President, if we get to November of [2026] and
people's 401(k)s are down 30% and prices are up 10–20% at the supermarket,
we're going to go into Election Day, face a bloodbath."
"You're
going to lose the House, you're going to lose the Senate, you're going to spend
the next two years being impeached every single week."
Trump's
response, according to Cruz: "F**k you, Ted."
When a
questioner at the donors' session mentions "Liberation Day" — Trump's
branding for his tariffs unveiling — Cruz jokes: "I've told my team if
anyone uses those words, they will be terminated on the spot. That is not
language we use."
Cruz also
told the donors about "battling" the White House to accept a trade
agreement with India. When a donor asks who in the administration is resistant
to reaching such accords, Cruz mentions White House economic adviser Peter
Navarro, Vance and "sometimes" Trump.
Cruz
repeatedly brings up Vance in the recordings, tying him to Carlson and accusing
him of advancing the podcaster's anti-interventionist foreign policy.
"Tucker
created JD. JD is Tucker's protégé, and they are one and the same," Cruz
says.
Between
the lines: Cruz has been waging a months-long campaign against Carlson on
social media. But he has refrained from publicly linking Carlson and Vance, who
are friends.
At one
point in the recordings, Cruz alleges that Vance and Carlson pushed for the
ousting of former national security adviser Mike Waltz because Waltz supported
bombing Iran — a position Trump ultimately embraced.
Waltz
"supported being vigorous against Iran and bombing Iran — and Tucker and
JD took Mike out," Cruz tells the donors.
Vance has
said he supported the bombings of Iran's nuclear sites last June.
Cruz also
says Vance and Carlson were behind the appointment of Army veteran Daniel
Davis, a sharp critic of U.S. support for Israel, to a top national
intelligence position.
The
senator called Davis "a guy who viciously hates Israel," and said he
helped get Davis quickly removed from the job.
What
they're saying: A Cruz spokesperson said in a statement that the senator is
"the president's greatest ally in the Senate and battles every day in the
trenches to advance his agenda."
"Those
battles include fights over staffers who try to enter the administration
despite disagreeing with the president and seeking to undermine his foreign
policy," the statement said.
"Sen.
Cruz is proud of those fights, his accomplishments, and his close relationship
with the president. These attempts at sowing division are pathetic and getting
boring."
Carlson
told Axios that he "didn't have anything to do" with the ousting of
Waltz or the hiring of Davis.
Spokespeople
for Trump and Vance didn't respond to requests for comment.

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