With Trump-Zelensky Meeting, Ukrainians See a Glimmer of Hope
The United
States has been pushing Ukraine to accept a peace plan that seems in part a
gift to Moscow. But the short meeting of the leaders, and subsequent comments,
appeared to be a change in tone.
Kim Barker
By Kim
Barker
Reporting
from Kyiv, Ukraine
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/world/europe/ukraine-trump-zelensky-putin.html
April 27,
2025
Updated
10:19 a.m. ET
President
Trump’s standing among Ukrainians is practically on life support. But many
cheered one statement he made on Saturday after meeting with President
Volodymyr Zelensky, questioning why President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia would
continue to pummel Ukraine as the United States is trying to broker peace
talks.
“It makes me
think that maybe he doesn’t want to stop the war, he’s just tapping me along,”
Mr. Trump wrote on Truth Social after meeting with Mr. Zelensky on the
sidelines of Pope Francis’ funeral, adding that Mr. Putin may need to be “dealt
with differently” — with more sanctions.
The day’s
events were a victory of sorts for Mr. Zelensky and Ukraine at a critical
juncture in the war, which began with Russia’s full-scale invasion in February
2022. The United States has been pushing Ukraine to accept a peace plan that
seems in part a gift to Moscow. The proposal would force Kyiv to abandon its
aspirations of joining NATO, offer Ukraine only vague security guarantees, and
see the United States officially recognizing Crimea as Russian. Ukraine has
rejected that deal, which the Trump administration had described as its final
offer.
But now,
Ukrainians see a small glimmer of hope that Mr. Trump will not try to force
Ukraine into a lopsided peace plan. It first emerged in the fallout from a
massive Russian missile attack on Ukraine’s capital early Thursday that killed
12 people and injured almost 90. “Vladimir, STOP!” Mr. Trump posted on Truth
Social, in a rare rebuke of Mr. Putin.
And then,
the hope grew slightly on Saturday when Mr. Zelensky managed to wrangle about
15 minutes with Mr. Trump in Rome. Photos released by the Ukrainian government
showed the two men sitting in chairs and leaning toward each other, talking
like equals — a vastly different scene than a disastrous meeting in the Oval
Office in late February that ended with Mr. Zelensky’s abrupt departure from
the White House and the temporary freezing of all U.S. aid.
The photos
from Rome “were extraordinary,” said Volodymyr Dubovyk, the director of the
Center for International Studies at Odesa I.I. Mechnikov National University.
He added that it was good for Mr. Zelensky to have some time alone with Mr.
Trump.
“Trump’s
team has had too much exposure to the Kremlin and its talking points lately, so
for Kyiv to be able to present their perspective directly to Trump was useful,
I suppose. Just maybe Trump will now understand a bit better Ukraine’s
concerns,” Mr. Dubovyk said.
Some
Ukrainians interviewed on Sunday in Kyiv acknowledged that Mr. Trump can change
his mind with breakneck speed. But they took solace in the fact that the White
House called Saturday’s conversation a “very productive discussion.”
Oleh Karas,
40, who was collecting donations to buy drones outside of a memorial to fallen
soldiers, called the photos of the two leaders “amazing” and said it looked
like “Trump was listening to him.”
As he stood
in front of thousands of flags planted in the ground, each one marking a dead
soldier, Mr. Karas said: “You should bring Trump here. Have him see this place.
Let him go to where the missile hit. Let him see what happened.”
Even such a
small thing as Mr. Trump’s short meeting with Mr. Zelensky felt like a major
change. Since taking office, the Trump administration has at times appeared
almost solicitous of Mr. Putin, a sharp reversal in U.S. policy. And Mr. Trump
has made no secret of his dislike for the Ukrainian leader.
So Mr.
Trump’s statements on Truth Social after the meeting seemed to many in Ukraine
like something of a vindication or what they have been saying for years: that
Mr. Putin might not be telling the truth. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014.
Ukraine has also been fighting Russia in the eastern Donbas region since then,
and Mr. Putin has violated multiple peace accords aimed at ending the violence
there. The Russian leader also repeatedly claimed that he had no intention of
mounting a broader invasion of Ukraine — right up until the moment his tanks
crossed the border in 2022 to begin the full-scale invasion.
That history
is why Ukraine’s government has insisted that any peace deal in this war with
Russia must include a strong security guarantee — and why it wanted NATO
membership, even though that dream has been put on hold.
Dmitri S.
Peskov, the Kremlin’s spokesman, told journalists in a briefing broadcast on
Russian state television on Sunday that it was too early to talk about terms of
any peace deal, adding that the negotiations were not public.
The
Ukrainians have countered the Trump administration’s peace plan with their own,
which calls for a European peacekeeping force with the United States providing
backup. In a social media post after the meeting on Saturday, Mr. Zelensky did
not get into specifics about his conversation with Mr. Trump, but said they
talked about a “full and unconditional cease-fire,” and a “reliable and lasting
peace that will prevent another war from breaking out.”
Mr. Trump
has repeatedly said Ukraine is losing the war and doesn’t have the leverage to
demand a good deal from Russia — a transactional approach to foreign policy at
odds with many Western leaders. Some leverage that Ukraine had at one point
appears to be lost: Russia’s top military commander said Saturday that Russian
troops had completely retaken the Russian region of Kursk, more than eight
months after Ukrainian troops launched a surprise incursion. On Sunday,
Ukrainian officials continued to deny that they had been pushed out from all of
Kursk.
Serhiy
Hrabsky, a military analyst who is a former colonel in the Ukrainian Army, said
Sunday that talk of a peace deal now was premature and that Moscow was playing
“political Ping-Pong” with the Trump administration.
“Russia will
not stop,” he added.
On Sunday,
Yulia Svyrydenko, the Ukrainian economy minister and a close ally of Mr.
Zelensky, called the meeting between Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky “a chance to
move forward — to build real peace through strength.” In a social media post,
she said that only stronger sanctions and more pressure on Russia could bring
the war to an end.
After the
meeting between Mr. Zelensky and Mr. Trump, Senator Lindsey Graham — the
Republican from South Carolina who had been a staunch ally of Ukraine but has
shifted his tone amid Mr. Trump’s push to broker a quick peace — seemed to
sense an opening. He lauded the Trump administration’s efforts to broker a
cease-fire and also touted a recent bipartisan threat to impose more sanctions
on Moscow.
Still, there
is no doubt that pressure is building on Ukraine to make a deal, both at home
and from the Trump administration. The mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, who has
had a tense relationship with Mr. Zelensky, told the BBC hours after the huge
missile attack Thursday that it may be time to give up land for peace, at least
temporarily. Mr. Zelensky has also said that Ukraine might have to cede some
territory for a peace deal — land it hopes to regain through diplomatic means —
as long as it gets a security guarantee, like NATO membership.
And despite
the positive feelings about Saturday’s meeting of the two leaders, questions
about the relationship between them remained. After the brief meeting, a
Ukrainian spokesman said that the two men would talk again later on Saturday.
But Mr. Trump made a speedy departure from the pope’s funeral. He had told
aides earlier that he wanted to be back to his golf resort in New Jersey by the
end of the day.
After Mr.
Trump boarded Air Force One to leave, the Ukrainian spokesman said a second
meeting would not occur because of the “very tight schedules of the
presidents.”
Oleksandra
Mykolyshyn and Nataliya Vasilyeva contributed reporting.
Kim Barker
is a Times reporter writing in-depth stories about the war in Ukraine.
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