Hegseth
Disclosed Secret War Plans in a Group Chat
The
conversation among the defense secretary and other national security officials
on a commercial messaging app mistakenly included the editor in chief of The
Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg.
“Why were
those details shared on Signal, and how did you learn that a journalist was
privy to the targets, the types of weapons used?” “I’ve heard — I’ve heard I
was characterized. Nobody was texting war plans. And that’s all I have to say
about that. Thank you. I appreciate it.” “Mr. Secretary, the NSC said it was
authentic.” “I know nothing about it. You’re saying that they had, what?” “They
were using Signal to coordinate on sensitive materials.” “I don’t know anything
about it. You’re telling me about it for the first time. Anybody else?”
Helene
Cooper Eric Schmitt
By Helene
Cooper and Eric Schmitt
Reporting
from Washington
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/us/politics/hegseth-classified-war-plans-group-chat.html
Published
March 24, 2025
Updated
March 25, 2025, 1:30 a.m. ET
Defense
Secretary Pete Hegseth disclosed war plans in an encrypted group chat that
included a journalist two hours before U.S. troops launched attacks against the
Houthi militia in Yemen, the White House said on Monday, confirming an account
in the magazine The Atlantic.
The editor
in chief of The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg, wrote in an article published on
Monday that he was mistakenly added to the text chat on the commercial
messaging app Signal by Michael Waltz, the national security adviser.
It was an
extraordinary breach of American national security intelligence. Not only was
the journalist inadvertently included in the group, but the conversation also
took place outside the secure government channels that would normally be used
for classified and highly sensitive war planning.
Mr. Goldberg
said he was able to follow the conversation among senior members of President
Trump’s national security team in the two days leading up to the strikes in
Yemen. The group also included Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State
Marco Rubio, Mr. Goldberg wrote.
At 11:44
a.m. on March 15, Mr. Hegseth posted the “operational details of forthcoming
strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would
be deploying, and attack sequencing,” Mr. Goldberg wrote. “The information
contained in them, if they had been read by an adversary of the United States,
could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence
personnel, particularly in the broader Middle East.”
In an
interview, Mr. Goldberg said that “up until the Hegseth text on Saturday, it
was mainly procedural and policy texting. Then it became war plans, and to be
honest, that sent a chill down my spine.”
Mr. Goldberg
did not publish the details of the war plans in his article.
Mr. Hegseth,
Mr. Goldberg wrote, said that “the first detonations in Yemen would be felt two
hours hence, at 1:45 p.m. Eastern time. So I waited in my car in a supermarket
parking lot.”
“If this
Signal chat was real, I reasoned, Houthi targets would soon be bombed,” he
added.
At around
1:55, initial airstrikes hit buildings in neighborhoods in and around Sana,
Yemen’s capital, that were known Houthi leadership strongholds, according to
Pentagon officials and residents. The strikes continued throughout that
Saturday and into the next few days.
Mr. Hegseth,
Mr. Goldberg wrote, declared to the group — which included the journalist —
that steps had been taken to keep the information secret.
“We are
currently clean on OPSEC,” Mr. Hegseth wrote, using the military acronym for
operational security.
Several
Defense Department officials expressed shock that Mr. Hegseth had put American
war plans into a commercial chat group. They said that having this type of
conversation in a Signal chat group itself could be a violation of the
Espionage Act, a law covering the handling of sensitive information.
Revealing
operational war plans before planned strikes could also put American troops
directly into harm’s way, the officials said. And former F.B.I. officials who
worked on leak cases described this as a devastating breach of national
security. They spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive
national security matter.
Former
national security officials said that if personal cellphones were used in the
group chat, the behavior would be even more egregious because of ongoing
Chinese hacking efforts.
Senator Jack
Reed of Rhode Island, the ranking Democrat on the Armed Services Committee,
said that the “story represents one of the most egregious failures of
operational security and common sense I have ever seen.”
“Military
operations need to be handled with utmost discretion and precision, using
approved secure lines of communication, because American lives are on the
line,” he added.
Republican
senators faced a barrage of questions. Many said they were concerned, but most
were withholding judgment until they could receive a full briefing.
“It appears
that were mistakes were made, no question,” said Senator Roger Wicker, a
Mississippi Republican who is the chairman of the chamber’s Armed Services
Committee. “We’ll try to get to ground truth and take appropriate action.”
Representative
Brian Fitzpatrick, a Pennsylvania Republican who sits on the House Intelligence
Committee, said on CNN that his panel would send an inquiry to the Office of
the Director of National Intelligence and then determine whether a fuller
investigation is warranted.
But Speaker
Mike Johnson, Republican of Louisiana, dismissed the idea of additional
investigations or discipline for the officials involved. “I’m told they’re
doing an investigation to find out how that number was included, and that
should be that,” Mr. Johnson told reporters at the Capitol, referring to White
House officials. “I’m not sure that it requires much additional attention.”
Mr. Trump,
speaking to reporters at the White House, said that he had no knowledge of the
article in The Atlantic. “I don’t know anything about it,” he said, adding,
“You’re telling me about it for the first time.”
The Pentagon
referred questions about the article to the National Security Council. Mr.
Hegseth was traveling to Hawaii on Monday, his first stop on a weeklong trip to
Asia. He spoke to reporters traveling with him after landing in Hawaii, called
Mr. Goldberg a “so-called journalist” and, when pressed, said that “nobody was
texting war plans, and that’s all I have to say about that.”
But the
White House appeared to contradict him. “At this time, the message thread that
was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent
number was added to the chain,” Brian Hughes, the National Security Council
spokesman, said in an emailed statement. He called the thread “a demonstration
of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials.”
The State
Department spokeswoman, Tammy Bruce, said at a press briefing that she would
not comment on Mr. Rubio’s “deliberative conversations,” and directed further
questions to the White House.
The group
chat also included a dissent from Mr. Vance, who called the timing of the Yemen
operation a “mistake.” He and Mr. Hegseth both argued in the chat that European
countries benefited from the U.S. Navy’s efforts to protect shipping lanes from
Houthi attacks.
“I am not
sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe
right now,” Mr. Vance wrote before the operation. He said he was “willing to
support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself.”
But he added
that “I just hate bailing Europe out again.”
Mr. Hegseth
replied: “I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC.”
But, he said, “I think we should go.”
During his
first term, Mr. Trump repeatedly said Hillary Clinton, his Democratic rival in
the 2016 election, should have been imprisoned for using a private email server
to communicate with her staff and others while she was secretary of state. Mr.
Waltz, for his part, posted on social media in June 2023: “Biden’s sitting
National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan sent Top Secret messages to Hillary
Clinton’s private account. And what did DOJ do about it? Not a damn thing.”
In his many
television appearances before he became defense secretary, Mr. Hegseth also
excoriated Mrs. Clinton for using a private email server. Across social media
on Monday, those criticisms were reappearing. “Hey @petehegseth_DOD, this you?”
read one post, accompanying a video of Mr. Hegseth on Fox Business saying that
Mrs. Clinton “betrayed her country” for “convenience.”
Mrs.
Clinton, for her part, reposted the Atlantic story on social media with one
comment: “You have got to be kidding me.”
Reporting
was contributed by Michael Crowley, Adam Goldman, Maya C. Miller and Minho Kim.
Helene
Cooper is a Pentagon correspondent. She was previously an editor, diplomatic
correspondent and White House correspondent. More about Helene Cooper
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