Interview
‘Trump can beat Biden’: White House whistleblower
Miles Taylor returns with fresh warning
David Smith
The former Republican aide has written a sequel, under
his own name, to the column and book which blew the whistle from inside the
Trump White House. He fears what comes next
David Smith
@smithinamerica
Tue 18 Jul
2023 07.00 EDT
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jul/18/miles-taylor-whistleblower-trump-biden-interview
Miles
Taylor is many things but he is no longer Anonymous. That was the word he hid
behind in writing a damning essay in the New York Times from inside Donald
Trump’s White House and a subsequent book.
Today,
Taylor is speaking openly to anyone who will listen. The 35-year-old conducts
part of a phone interview with the Guardian while boarding a flight from
Chicago to north-west Michigan. At one point he breaks off to make sure two
fellow passengers get to sit together. With the grateful couple safely
ensconced, Taylor carries on talking. What if his unvarnished views on the
former president trigger a display of Maga air rage?
“It’s been
my experience the past couple of years that when someone notices you and they
come over and say, ‘Are you such and such person?’, you don’t know if that’s
going to be someone who says thank you for what you did or someone spits in
your face and tries to punch you. So yeah, I try to lower my voice in public.”
Even so,
Taylor has proudly attached his name to a second book, Blowback: A Warning to
Save Democracy from the Next Trump, which combines raw politics with uncomfortable
disclosures from his own life. Showing the zeal of a convert, the man who for a
time was at the centre of the biggest mystery in Washington has become an
apostle of radical transparency. With Trump once again charging towards the
White House and vowing revenge, Taylor sees the cloak of anonymity he once
embraced as a fundamental threat to democracy.
Taylor
insists he hates politics but was inspired to work in government after the
September 11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. He started in the
George W Bush administration and was a senior aide on Capitol Hill. After
Trump’s election he joined the homeland security department, eventually
becoming chief of staff to the secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen.
In
September 2018, Taylor wrote his column in the Times, under the headline “I Am
Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration”. The article made
public what cabinet members were saying in private: Trump was unstable and
unfit.
Guessing
the identity of the author became a Washington parlour game, with Trump
demanding the Times unmask him (“TREASON?” he tweeted). Taylor quit the
administration and followed up with a book, A Warning, attributed to
“Anonymous: A Senior Trump Administration Official”, another chronicle of
incompetence and malevolence in the White House.
Yet he was
finding the secrecy an unbearable burden and, after much agonising, unmasked
himself in October 2020.
He recalls:
“It’s obviously very ironic coming from me but, in the aftermath of all of
that, I came to the conclusion that the biggest threat to our democracy was
anonymity.
“The people
who most needed to come forward and tell the truth were cowed into silence,
including me. I thought anonymously sounding the alarm about the president
would draw attention to the message instead of the messenger and always
intended to unveil myself. But in the aftermath I realised I really should have
done that a lot sooner both for political reasons and personal reasons.”
Politically,
he believes, coming forward sooner would have given more people cover to do the
same. When Taylor went public ahead of the 2020 election, it proved helpful in
recruiting what would be the biggest alliance of ex-officials in US history to
campaign against the president who appointed them.
“But then
personally, the living two lives was an enormous stressor on my psyche and my
life. The pressure to come forward or not? Frankly, at the core of it, the
reason why I delayed was fear and, as I dove deeper into myself, it felt like
cowardice because I saw what happened to people who went against Trump. While I
convinced myself, ‘Look, you’re going to unmask yourself eventually,’ I was
hesitant in that time after the publication of the op-ed and the book, because
I didn’t want my life ripped to shreds. But ultimately, I felt I really had to
do that,” he says.
To manage
anxiety attacks, Taylor abused alcohol and prescription drugs. He was
hospitalised after overdosing on caffeine, alcohol, marijuana and Xanax, at
levels that had killed other patients. After revealing his identity, he
received death threats, took on a bodyguard and was forced to shuttle between
safe houses.
Taylor now
writes: “The public fight against Donald Trump cost me my home, my job and
savings, friendships, a relationship, and my family’s security, temporarily
putting me on the run. Late one evening in a Virginia high-rise, it also nearly
cost me my life.”
This last
point is a reference to how, alone with a gun on election night in 2020, Taylor
contemplated shooting himself. Now, sober for nearly 18 months, he sees the
experience as metaphor for the US in the Trump era.
The flirtation with putting another hyper-populist
far-right person in the White House is effectively civic suicidal ideation
He says:
“The ways that we individually, if we ignore our guardrails, can end up causing
ourselves to drift towards self-destruction and similarly, as a democracy,
ignoring those guardrails is effectively suicidal ideation. That’s what we are
as a country grappling with right now.
“The
flirtation with putting another hyper-populist far-right person in the White House
is effectively civic suicidal ideation. In the course of writing this, the
personal guardrails being ripped off in my life looked an awful lot like what’s
happening right now where our collective silence, at least in the Republican
party, about this guy is leading us potentially towards self-destruction.
“Now,
that’s not to say that there aren’t people sounding the alarm but, by and
large, the leading figures of the Republican party refuse to repudiate this man
and continue to support him. We are doing this again, even though those people
say privately he’s a threat.”
Taylor
offers the example of Kevin McCarthy, the House speaker whom Taylor used to
meet weekly.
“He thought
Trump was a buffoon and a danger and I’m sure Kevin still thinks that
privately. Those people publicly, because they’re afraid, are still supporting
the man. That collective anonymity is putting us in pretty seriously great
danger.”
In November
2020, the journalist Carl Bernstein listed 21 Republican senators he said had
“repeatedly expressed contempt” for Trump. Many Republicans on Capitol Hill
have confided in reporters about such disdain, generating countless stories.
But few ever go on the record. Taylor talked to many of them for his book.
“Some of
the people who were incredibly critical of me for publishing anonymous
critiques of the president are the same people who when I interviewed them,
asked that I not use their names so that they could speak candidly. They asked
if they could be anonymous in the book. You can’t even make that shit up:
that’s insane hypocrisy,” he says.
“And after
I submitted to the publisher, I went back to some of these people multiple
times and said, ‘I really think you should consider letting me put you on the
record here. Let’s make this an opportunity for you to be on the record pushing
back against this.’ ‘Oh, no, no, no, no. It doesn’t make sense right now. I’m
better positioned in my job in Congress or within the party to steer the
direction.’
“To them I
would say: I thought the same thing and was completely fucking wrong because we
weren’t able to steer in the right direction. Look, you guys aren’t having an
effect. He’s still dominating. Stop fooling yourselves. The best impact you can
have will be to speak out from within the tribe because it is air cover for
other people to do the same. I’m afraid we’re sleepwalking back into the exact
same mistakes we made last time and that’s why I called this Blowback.”
On or off
the record, Taylor’s sources shared horror stories to add to his own. Trump
allegedly sought to tap aides’ phones in an attempt to catch leakers. He was
said to have viewed military veterans as “lazy malingerers” and planned to
destroy the $250bn veterans’ social safety net so he could spend the money
elsewhere. He put his own government on edge about the prospect of nuclear war.
Taylor
recalls: “Officials were so worried that the president would accidentally lead
us into a nuclear war with North Korea that, for the first time in the history
of the Department of Homeland Security, we convened every single leader to talk
through actual real-life preparations for what we might have to do if we ended
up in a nuclear conflict with another nation state. I will tell you that, in
the wake of those preparatory meetings, I felt like we were woefully unprepared
as a country to enter that type of conflict, which made it all the more
reckless that Trump was being so bellicose with regard to the North Koreans.”
Blowback
describes how White House officials worried that Trump wanted to invoke the
Insurrection Act and deploy the military on US soil. Aides mused about using
American firepower against helpless migrants.
Taylor
writes: “On the flight back to Washington DC, Trump adviser Stephen Miller took
a seat next to me to float an idea. Across from us at a small table sat the
commandant of the coast guard, Adm Paul Zukunft. ‘Admiral, the military has
aerial drones, correct?’ Stephen inquired. ‘Yes,’ Zukunft replied. ‘And some of
those drones are equipped with missiles, correct?’
“‘Sure,’
the commandant answered, clearly wondering where the line of questioning was
going. ‘And when a boat full of migrants is in international waters, they
aren’t protected by the US constitution, right?’ ‘Technically, no, but I’m not
sure what you’re getting at.’ ‘Tell me why, then, can’t we use a Predator drone
to obliterate that boat?’ Adm Zukunft looked nonplussed. ‘Because, Stephen, it
would be against international law.’”
All of it,
Taylor warns, would be far worse under “Trump 2.0”, with guardrails gone and
third-rate officials in place. Taylor fears Trump could use secret powers known
by national security officials as “the doomsday book” to manipulate elections
and satisfy his authoritarian impulses.
He says:
“The aides that guarded that book were concerned about the president reading
it, or Maga allies around him getting ahold of it, because especially towards
the end of the administration, they witnessed the president’s proclivity to
abuse his authorities for political purposes, and especially as he started to
signal that the 2020 election might be stolen or he could be cheated, those
same people were concerned about Trump realising he had even more extraordinary
powers than he knew and that he might potentially use those to cement a coup.”
The US
dodged a bullet: the doomsday book almost fell into the hands of Christina
Bobb, a Trump lawyer, election denier and former host on the far-right One
America News Network.
“I have no
doubt that she would have taken the doomsday book to Trump and said, ‘Wait a
second, look at all of the classified emergency powers we could use to make
sure that power is not transferred to Joe Biden.’ That’s pretty terrifying,”
Taylor says.
“In a
second term, Trump will be very much aware that exists and I suspect from day
one they’ll want to get their hands on it and see what tools we in the American
public aren’t aware of that they could use to further cement a hold on power
and disrupt the political process.”
In
Blowback, Trump’s vulgar sexism also comes under scrutiny. Taylor recounts how
the president made lewd comments about his own family members. He writes:
“Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it
might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [then chief of staff]
John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter. Afterward,
Kelly retold the story to me in visible disgust. Trump, he said, was ‘a very,
very evil man.’”
Trump was
not beyond “locker room talk” at national security meetings. Taylor says: “He
would critique women about their looks on their television appearances and
their bodies, including my own boss, Kirstjen Nielsen, at one point, and that
was incredibly off-putting. There’s an anecdote I tell in the book about him
joking about [press secretary] Sarah Sanders’ weight.
I’ve got to think that people who are still hardcore
supporters of Trump’s will at least draw the line at incest fantasies
“But the
comments about his own daughter were the most disgusting. I debated actually
whether to even include those anecdotes in the book because they are so graphic
and disgusting. But I’ve got to think, or hope at least, that people who are
still hardcore supporters of his, who’ve stuck with him through impeachments
and indictments, will at least draw the line at incest fantasies.
“There’s
got to be a point that you just decide, no matter how much you like someone’s
policies, that their character is so vile that you can’t support them. So I
ultimately decided to put that in there to talk about his misogynistic
behaviour because I think it’s reflective of the way he conducts himself as
commander-in-chief. You can’t firewall those two things from each other. He
can’t be a disgusting person in his private life and a paragon virtue in his
public life. That doesn’t exist. Those private behaviours lead to public
danger.”
That much
should have been clear in 2016, when the public learned of the Access Hollywood
tape, on which Trump boasted about grabbing women’s genitals, and elected him anyway.
He has always been the opposite of anonymous, a celebrity flaunting his vices
in plain sight. Taylor thinks 2016 might be happening again.
Taylor
says: “There’s been a number of polls that show the ex-president beating Joe
Biden by several points. It would be hubris to say, ‘Oh, no, we would beat him
again a second time.’ Actually, I don’t think that. If the election was held
today, I think Donald Trump would defeat Joe Biden, and that really concerns
me.”
Taylor
proposes harsh medicine few Democrats would be willing to swallow: a coalition
with moderate Republicans, perhaps even with the former congresswoman Liz
Cheney replacing Kamala Harris as Biden’s running mate.
“The single
best jump to beat Trump is a unity coalition that Biden would undertake to
form. He talked a lot about bringing Republicans into his administration in the
first term. Not a whole lot came in. He needs to bring someone to the top of
the ticket to show he would govern for the first time in American history as a
unity president with a unity administration. That’s maybe his only shot to
decisively beat Donald Trump,” he says.
Taylor’s
plane is about to take off. After celebrating his father’s 80th birthday in
Michigan, he will head to a memorial service for a family member who died at
95.
“I’m taking
heart in the fact that I’ve got family members that are living so long,” he
says, philosophically. “Hopefully that means something for me. The stupid situation
that I keep putting myself in in going against these political crazies probably
is not terribly good for my lifespan. We’ll see.”
Blowback: A
Warning to Save Democracy from the Next Trump is published in the US by Atria
Books

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