Ana
Kasparian Spotlights Armenian Genocide, Azerbaijan’s Ethnic Cleansing of
Artsakh and Israel’s Role, in Explosive Interview With Tucker Carlson
The Editor
By
The Editor
July 25,
2025
Armenian-American
journalist Ana Kasparian spoke about the 2020 war in Artsakh, the ethnic
cleansing of Armenians by Azerbaijan, the destruction of ancient Armenian
churches, Israel’s role in arming Azerbaijan, the Armenian Genocide, and the
Armenian diaspora’s survival in places like Syria, Lebanon, Iran, and the
United States in an interview with Tucker Carlson on the Tucker Carlson
Network, released July 25, 2025, reports Zartonk Media.
Tucker
Carlson, one of the most influential media figures in the world, has 16.5
million followers on X (formerly Twitter). The episode featuring Kasparian has
already surpassed one million views within its first 24 hours. His podcast
regularly ranks among the most-watched political shows online, with previous
episodes garnering millions of views across platforms including X, YouTube, and
his own network website. The 90-minute podcast covered a wide range of issues,
but it was a roughly 10-minute exchange on Armenia, Artsakh, and the legacy of
genocide and displacement that stood out as one of the episode’s most emotional
and historically significant moments.
The full
conversation also touched on subjects including the Jeffrey Epstein case, the
evolution of political parties in America, defunding the police, U.S.
involvement in foreign wars, California’s decline, Gavin Newsom’s record,
corporate media’s manipulation, Tucker Carlson’s presidential prospects, online
backlash, class tensions among liberals, centralized power and surveillance,
Israel’s strike on Gaza’s only Catholic church, and the future of media in the
United States.
A Raw,
Unfiltered Look at Armenia and the 2020 Artsakh War
Midway
through the conversation, Carlson asked Kasparian — whose surname hints at her
Armenian heritage — about the largely forgotten war between Armenia and
Azerbaijan over the region of Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh).
Kasparian
didn’t hold back. She described how Azerbaijan launched a brutal military
offensive in 2020 to retake the Armenian-majority region. “They [Azerbaijan]
engaged in ethnic cleansing,” she said. “They were forced out if they weren’t
killed.”
She detailed
how ancient churches were bombed, entire communities displaced, and thousands
of ethnic Armenians forced to flee to Armenia — a small, landlocked nation
already strained by its geography and history.
Stalin’s
Legacy and the Seeds of Conflict
Kasparian
walked Carlson through the Soviet-era roots of the conflict, noting how Joseph
Stalin had strategically handed Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) to Azerbaijan,
despite its overwhelmingly Armenian population, in order to keep both Armenians
and Azeris dependent on Moscow.
“Stalin was
evil in a lot of ways, but he was also very smart — which is the most dangerous
combination.”
Global
Silence and Media Neglect
When Carlson
asked why the destruction of Christian churches wasn’t drawing international
outrage, Kasparian was blunt: “American media doesn’t care about Armenia.
Armenians don’t have a powerful lobby that can bribe our politicians to care
about them.”
Carlson
expanded the conversation to a broader concern: “I see a global theme where the
most peaceful religion in the world is taking the most abuse… and there’s the
most murder of Christians. I just am amazed that nobody says anything in the
United States.”
Kasparian
lamented that the U.S. has failed to respond — not just diplomatically, but
morally — to what she characterized as an open campaign of ethnic and religious
cleansing.
Israel’s
Role in the Conflict
Perhaps the
most provocative moment came when Kasparian addressed Israel’s sale of weapons
to Azerbaijan, which she said were used in the 2020 assault on Artsakh.
Carlson, visibly taken aback, asked for confirmation multiple times.
“Yes. It’s
absolutely confirmed… It’s documented,” Kasparian said firmly. She added, “If
I’m ever wrong, I will admit it. But this is something I’ve researched deeply…
In regard to Israel, it’s very clear, and it’s documented.”
She also
noted allegations of arms sales from Russia, but emphasized that Israel’s
involvement is irrefutable and well-documented.
A History of
Genocide and Displacement
The
conversation widened to include the Armenian Genocide, which Kasparian traced
back to the Committee of Union and Progress, an offshoot of the Young Turks
movement. She clarified that The Young Turks show’s name reflects the American
idiom for anti-establishment youth, not the historical group behind the
genocide — a frequent point of confusion.
She also
shared her own family history: her father was born in Damascus, a descendant of
genocide survivors who had been forced from their homeland. Her parents later
immigrated to the U.S. as refugees from Soviet Armenia in the late 20th
century.
The Armenian
Diaspora: Resilient and Rooted
Kasparian
reflected on the widespread Armenian diaspora, from Lebanon to Iran to
California. In discussing Iran’s Armenian Christian population, she revealed
that Armenians there still openly practice their faith — something she
contrasted sharply with the hostility Armenians have faced elsewhere.
“They might
not like the Ayatollah… but what they respect is the fact that [Armenians are]
still able to practice their religion. They’re still able to go to church. For
the most part, they’re left alone.”
She praised
communities like Glendale, California, where Armenian Americans have built
vibrant, family-oriented neighborhoods: “Glendale, California is gorgeous… They
care about their community. They care about their families. They want to work
hard.”
A Rare
Dialogue in American Media
That a
progressive Armenian-American and a conservative commentator could engage in
such a deep, mutually respectful conversation about Armenia’s suffering and
survival is something almost unheard of in today’s polarized media landscape.
While the
episode also covered a wide range of political and cultural topics — including
the Epstein scandal, California’s decline, foreign wars, centralized power,
liberal elite culture, corporate media, Israeli airstrikes in Gaza, and the
future of political parties — it was this 10-minute exchange on the Armenian
cause that stood out as a rare moment of unity and truth.
Why This
Moment Matters
Kasparian
and Carlson’s discussion brought long-overdue attention to a cause too often
relegated to silence. For the Armenian people, for Christians under threat, and
for anyone seeking moral clarity in foreign affairs, this was a breakthrough.
In a world
saturated with noise, their words cut through. The story of Artsakh, of
survival, and of truth was told — not by a government, not by a lobby, but by
people unafraid to speak plainly.
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