Trump
Suggests Openness to Slashing China Tariffs Ahead of Trade Talks
The
president said reducing tariffs to 80 percent from the current 145 percent
“sounds right,” as U.S. and Chinese negotiators prepare to meet in Switzerland.
Alan
Rappeport Ana Swanson Alexandra Stevenson
By Alan
Rappeport Ana Swanson and
Alexandra Stevenson
Alan
Rappeport and Ana Swanson reported from Washington, and Alexandra Stevenson
from Hong Kong.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/us/politics/trump-us-china-tariffs-80-percent.html
May 9, 2025
Updated 2:46
p.m. ET
President
Trump suggested on Friday that he was open to sharply reducing the tariffs that
the United States had imposed on China, as American and Chinese negotiators
prepare to meet in Switzerland this weekend for high-stakes trade talks.
Trade
tensions between the United States and China have roiled international markets
and the global economy. The negotiations on Saturday and Sunday are intended to
de-escalate the situation and help set the stage for a broader trade pact
between the two economic superpowers.
In a post on
social media, Mr. Trump said that an 80 percent tariff on China “seems right,”
adding that it would be “up to Scott B,” an apparent reference to Treasury
Secretary Scott Bessent.
An 80
percent tariff would be a big drop from the current 145 percent that Mr. Trump
imposed on Chinese imports in recent months. But that high a level would still
shut off most trade between the countries. Chinese data released on Friday
showed shipments from that country to the United States plunged 21 percent in
April from the same period a year ago.
The White
House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, said on Friday afternoon that the 80
percent figure was one that Mr. Trump “threw out there” and that a reduction
would only happen as part of a negotiation.
“The
president still remains with his position that he is not going to unilaterally
bring down tariffs on China,” Ms. Leavitt said. “We need to see concessions
from them as well.”
It’s also
unclear if the talks will lead to any short-term resolution for two governments
that have serious economic disputes and have taken a harsh tone toward the
other in recent months.
The Trump
administration has been racing to strike trade deals with other countries ahead
of a self-imposed deadline for additional tariffs to go in effect on most
trading partners. But it has remained in a standoff with China, which is
already subject to a minimum tariff of 145 percent on all imports.
This week,
the two sides agreed to hold meetings in Geneva that will include Mr. Bessent;
Jamieson Greer, the U.S. trade representative; and He Lifeng, China’s vice
premier for economic policy.
Stock
markets in the United States opened higher on Friday after Mr. Trump expressed
a willingness to lower tariffs and said in a separate post that many trade
deals were “in the hopper.” On Thursday, Mr. Trump highlighted a new
preliminary economic pact with Britain as evidence that his tariff strategy is
working.
The recent
elevation of Mr. Bessent, who is viewed as a pragmatist on trade, to lead the
talks with China has also helped to calm markets. The Treasury secretary has
argued that the tariffs and trade restrictions that the United States and China
have levied are “unsustainable” and has urged Beijing to begin talks to address
what the Trump administration views as unfair trade practices.
Despite
signs of greater flexibility from Mr. Trump, an 80 percent tariff may not be
low enough to restart business across the Pacific.
While it
differs from company to company, some executives have said that tariffs above
50 percent are generally enough to freeze exports to the United States.
Companies that are not able to find an alternative source of supply for their
products outside China are facing the prospect of bankruptcy and layoffs as the
summer grinds on and even 25 percent tariffs can be crippling.
Speaking at
the Milken Institute Global Conference in Los Angeles this week, Jane Fraser,
the chief executive of Citigroup, said companies could withstand lower tariffs,
though trade uncertainty had forced them to pause investment and hiring.
“If it is 10
percent, most of the clients we talk to say, ‘Yeah, we can absorb that,’” she
said. “If it is 25 percent, not so much.”
Economists
have warned that the chances of a recession in the United States are rising
because of Mr. Trump’s tariffs. Last month, the International Monetary Fund
downgraded its outlook for the United States and global output.
While some
companies have started to increase their prices as a result of the levies, the
effects of Mr. Trump’s tariffs haven’t been so obvious yet for U.S. consumers.
That is because it takes many weeks to ship items to the United States from
China by sea, and because companies have stockpiled generous amounts of
inventory ahead of the tariffs coming into effect.
But as trade
between the United States and China remains at a standstill, those effects
start to compound and become more apparent, in the form of higher prices and
short supply.
“The
companies know what’s happened,” said Ryan Peterson, the chief executive of
Flexport, a logistics company. “Their business models are under a huge amount
of pressure.”
The longer
the United States waited to make changes to tariffs, he added, “the more severe
the shock will be.”
It remains
unclear how Beijing will receive Mr. Trump’s change of tone. After weeks of
refusing to “kneel down” to the demands of the United States, China said it had
decided to come to the table because of “global expectations, China’s interests
and the calls of American industry and consumers.”
But it has
also struck a defiant tone. “We have no fear,” Hua Chunying, vice foreign
minister, told reporters on Friday during a trip to China’s countryside. “We do
not want any kind of war with any country. But we have to face up to the
reality,” she said, according to a report from Reuters.
The Chinese
government has not confirmed who else will be with Mr. He in talks with
American officials. But Wang Xiaohong, China’s minister of public security, was
traveling with Mr. He in Switzerland, according to one source who agreed to
speak on the condition of anonymity. Any negotiations on fentanyl would be led
by Mr. Wang, who is also the director of China’s narcotics control commission.
The talks
“seem more like efforts to probe at the positions of the other side,” said
Ja-Ian Chong, an associate professor of political science at the National
University of Singapore. The Chinese side may say it is willing to make
concessions in areas like balancing the country’s trade surplus, or help to
curb the export of precursors for fentanyl.
“I am
doubtful anything concrete is going to come out of this upcoming set of
meetings,” Mr. Chong added.
But the
Trump administration has been under pressure to show progress in trade talks
after weeks of volatility in markets and growing fears on Wall Street and in
corporate America of a downturn.
“Everything
that’s been going on with the meeting in Switzerland is very promising to us,”
Kevin Hassett, director of the White House’s National Economic Council, said on
CNBC on Friday. “We’re seeing collegiality and also sketches of positive
developments.”
Mr. Trump
said at the White House this week that he expected the talks with China to be
substantive. But analysts have tempered their optimism about a quick
breakthrough because China usually prefers to engage in extended and formal
negotiations. Besides tariff reductions, a more specific list of requirements
from both sides are expected for a comprehensive deal.
Despite Mr.
Trump’s affinity for imposing tariffs, in a separate post on Truth Social on
Friday he made the case for open markets and called on China to expand access
for American businesses.
“CHINA
SHOULD OPEN UP ITS MARKET TO USA — WOULD BE SO GOOD FOR THEM!!! CLOSED MARKETS
DON’T WORK ANYMORE!!!” Mr. Trump wrote.
Tony Romm
contributed reporting.
Alan
Rappeport is an economic policy reporter for The Times, based in Washington. He
covers the Treasury Department and writes about taxes, trade and fiscal
matters.
Ana Swanson
covers trade and international economics for The Times and is based in
Washington. She has been a journalist for more than a decade.
Alexandra
Stevenson is the Shanghai bureau chief for The Times, reporting on China’s
economy and society.


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