Philippe Legrain: ‘EU in deep
trouble after disastrous policies”
One of the
last interviews for Next Europe is with Philippe Legrain, a British economist
who worked for BEPA – the Commission’s own think-tank – until this year. He
published several books on globalisation and migration, and will publish
another one soon on what’s wrong with Europe ’s
economy and politics. Also Legrain is starting a new think-tank, the Open
Political Economy Network, which will focus on openness issues.
His
appointment at the European Commission, back in 2011, ‘came out of the blue’.
‘President Barroso saw me on television and was impressed by what he heard,
this was back in 2010 when the eurocrisis was kicking off. This was a crisis
that Commission officials had failed to foresee and seemed incapable of
solving. So he was looking for an alternative perspective.’
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2014-03-03 om 15.52.41And a different perspective Legrain certainly gives, he
is very critical of the way the crisis has been handled by ‘Brussels ’. ‘Current conditions are awful, I
think the EU is in deep trouble. European and national politicians have taken
decisions that have created a deep sense of injustice, prioritizing the
interest of let’s say German and French banks over a wider citizenry.’ This
course has lead to ‘self-defeating austerity’ as well as a ‘general detachment
from the pain and suffering and anxiety that most Europeans feel.’ The support
for the EU is lower in France
than even in Britain .
‘The political backlash against the economic crisis is only just beginning.’
Unelected
bureaucrats
Apart from
the strong focus on saving the banks, the researcher argues, the eurocrisis has
led to a ‘huge centralization’ of fiscal powers in Brussels . ‘That is economically dangerous
because when you share an interest and a currency you need more fiscal
flexibility, not less. And it’s politically problematic because the idea that
you can take decisions about taxation and spending out of the hand of elected
politicians, put it either in autopilot or through rules, or in the hands of
unelected bureaucrats who are remote from the decisions and the consequences at
national level, is dangerous. No taxation without representation is what leads
to revolution.’
To solve
this situation, the EU has to become much more democratic. Legrain: ‘That means
first of all much more openness and greater accountability, but secondly it means genuine choice.
Throughout this crisis we’ve seen government after government being thrown out,
and the first thing that happens when the new government is elected, is Olli
Rehn or someone else who pops up and says: you have to stick to the same policies!
Voters nationally will say, hang on a minute, we have a right to decide our
future.’
In his book
Aftershock, Philippe Legrain mentions four big dangers to the world (economy):
financial collapse, debt crises, protectionism and climate change. We are three
years on since the book was published, but the dangers are still present. ‘The
eurozone is not out of the woods by any means. This crisis is unresolved. Private
sector debt, which remains the biggest problem in Europe ,
is no lower than it was six years ago. We have had a lot of pain and very
little progress.’ But hang on, isn’t the EU out of recession? Legrain:
‘Economies are now in a very weak recovery that is not strong enough to
meaningfully bring down unemployment. And not strong enough to make paying off
debts a prospect. So the economic situation remains grim.’
Are we
going to lose the race with the BRICS?
‘The idea
of a race is a misconception. International exchange is a win-win. Hundreds of
millions have been lifted out of poverty. Unfortunately their success is now
perceived as a threat and the question comes up if we need to adjust.’
‘Long
before the crisis there has been a slow-down in productivity growth and a
fall-off in investment. Even after we emerge from the crisis, growth is
therefore going to be slow. Especially because societies are ageing and
workforces are shrinking. That prospect of stagnant economies tells us that we
need to change.’
‘We need to
invest much more in the future, we need to be much more accepting of
competition and change, and we need a much more entrepreneurial attitude. If
there is a silver lining to this crisis, is that there are millions of young
people who are neither in employment or education, these people have nothing to
lose from starting out on their own. And it is the duty of policy makers
everywhere to help them on their way. Whether it is connecting them to networks
of entrepreneurs and mentors, or changing regulations to start a business. This
could be some compensation for the terrible crisis that we’ve suffered over the
past six years.’
You have
been with BEPA, the Commission’s think-tank for three years. How would you look
back at this period?
Legrain: ‘I
am a dynamic free thinker and therefore a big bureaucracy which has lots of
people telling you what you can’t say, think or do, is not the ideal medium for
me.’
‘Eurozone
policy makers including the European Commission have made disastrous policy
mistakes in recent years. They have failed to solve the real problems which are
the banking crisis and excessive private sector debt, and they have created new
ones: financial panic in the eurozone which the ECB has now resolved, and this
headlong rush into austerity which has led to higher public debt rather than
lower public debt. And the employment crisis which is around Europe and
particularly in southern Europe , where you
have catastrophic figures. And no, there isn’t a sense of urgency.’
‘Part of
the problem is that EU institutions have been hijacked by Germany and
Chancelor Merkel thinks: no pain, no gain. Secondly EU officials are detached
from the people who their decisions affect. You have a job for life, you have a
goldplated pension, you only talk to people who work for EU institutions and/or
lobbyists who want money or rules changed that benefits them, and unemployment
in southern Europe is just numbers on a spreadsheet.’
Still, you
must have achieved some success.
‘I’ve had
some good exchanges with president Barroso where he listened to my points of
view. I’ve had some influence on decision-making, for example it was my idea to
increase the capital of the European Investment Bank in order to find some
fiscal stimulus to offset the austerity on national level. I fought to get it
into the president’s State of the Union speech in September 2011. And when
president Hollande was elected in 2012, they were looking for new ideas to
boost growth, this was taken up by the European Council in June 2012. So that
is a proud achievement, I can say that at least I helped push the debate in the
right direction.’
European Union needs sustained reform, not an overhaul
To take Europe further, we need a new
relationship of cooperation between the union, its institutions and the member
states
José Manuel
Barroso
theguardian.com,
Friday 9 May 2014 / http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/09/european-union-sustained-reform-overhaul-relationship-cooperation
The last
decade of European integration was marked by historic achievements, starting
with the enlargement to 12 new countries, but it was also marked by
unprecedented crises, from the financial meltdown to recent developments in Ukraine – probably the biggest challenge to
security and peace in Europe since the fall of
the Berlin Wall.
Much of the
fallout from the economic crisis was negative. Tensions have re-emerged between
the centre and the periphery, between richer and poorer member states, between
creditors and debtors, between the north and the south. There is a feeling of a
loss of fairness and equity. There was a dramatic rise of unemployment and a
huge challenge to our social model.
But the
crisis has also increased resolve that reforms are needed if we want to
maintain European competitiveness, productivity, employment and ultimately our
European growth model. And it has increased awareness of our interdependence.
In order to
safeguard peace and prosperity in Europe , we
need an EU that is much more willing to act together, project its power
internationally and strengthen its role and influence. A new world order is
being forged. Either we contribute to reshaping it or we miss out on the
future. Either Europe will advance in its
coherence or it will face irrelevance.
This means
that the EU must develop further. I believe that we need to perfect our
political union. Such a development must be an organic, not an abrupt one.
Reform, not revolution – that is the lesson I draw from my European experiences,
mainly from my 10 years as president of the European Commission.
Events over
the past decade are testimony to the extraordinary adaptability and flexibility
of the EU's institutions. One could call it their plasticity: they adjust shape
and form while keeping the substance. And that is exactly what we are doing now
to meet the challenges of our time.
It will
require us to develop a new level of political maturity that matches the degree
of decisions we take collectively. For a stronger EU to develop, we must
address the lack of ownership for these joint decisions. Populism thrives
because when Europe is given responsibilities,
key stakeholders often shy away from assuming their part of the accountability.
The populists should not be given that free ride.
For the
next phase of European integration we need to build broad-based political and
societal support. The drive for earlier phases of European integration has
always come from the bottom up as well as from the top down. European
integration was based on a clear sense of purpose, a clear idea of the need for
Europe . The treaties and institutions have
always followed the political will. We cannot – and should not – force public
opinion's hand. But we must try to forge the consensus we need. We need a new
debate to take Europe further. We need to
build a real sense of European and national ownership of the European project.
The main
challenges ahead of us today must be examined from the point of view of first,
the politics needed; then, the policies needed, and third, the polity needed to
achieve the first two. In that order.
So before
we discuss the technical details of yet another treaty, we must answer the
question: what is the agreed purpose of our Union ?
To what extent do we join our destinies? How far and how deep do we want
integration to go; who wants to participate in what; and why? Whether we
discuss further economic integration towards a genuine economic and monetary
union, a more unified external policy, or further steps towards a political union,
these questions must be debated first.
Throughout
the crisis the political will to act has eventually emerged. From new rules for
economic and budgetary oversight to stronger regulation and supervision of the
financial sector: whenever the 17 or 18 embarked on a more ambitious project,
almost all of the others joined and contributed. The centripetal forces have
proved to be stronger than the centrifugal forces time and again. The pattern
was for more integration, not less, and for the European institutions such as
the European Commission and the European Central Bank to become more competent,
not less.
But
European political dialectics are often characterised by a system where
everybody can afford to be a little bit in government and a little bit in
opposition; where successes are nationalised and difficulties Europeanised. The
time has come to create a new relationship of cooperation, a Kooperationsverhältnis
between the union, its institutions and the member states, a loyalty between
the institutions and the member states that goes beyond what's written in the
treaties.
Sustained
reform requires national leaders to see their role not only as national but at
the same time as European, and to close the existing implementation gap. When
decisions are taken by head of state and government they must be followed at
national level.
Sustained
reform also requires the European parliament to embrace its role as a
decision-maker rather than serve as an echo chamber for demands without regard
for their feasibility. Throughout the past decade parliament has shown that it
can play the game – from the adoption of the EU's budget to the conclusion of
the banking union.
Sustained
reform means that the commission remains the indispensable and reinforced focal
point of European politics. While the final outcome has not always reflected
our initial ambition, the commission has put the decisive proposals on the
table throughout the crisis. The new financial stability toolbox (EFSM, the
EFSF and later the ESM), the reform of economic governance, banking union,
tackling tax evasion, and initiatives to combat youth unemployment are just
some of the examples. No other place in the union brings together the
horizontal view – the political awareness of the variety of member state
situations – with the vertical insight and the expertise on European policies.
In Europe , leading means building consensus and avoiding
fragmentation. This is why I have made sure the commissions under my presidency
took collective responsibility for their decisions. A political executive is
not a miniature parliament. While it is important to recognise the political
character of the commission, it is equally important to avoid giving the
commission a partisan nature.
There will
not be a European Philadelphia moment, a constitutional rebirth of the whole EU
framework. The EU will continue to be a case of permanent reform rather than
permanent revolution. For this permanent reform to succeed, we need to get the
politics of Europe right first. No treaty
change, no institutional engineering can replace the political will Europe needs to move forward.
European
integration will always be a step-by-step process. Such a pragmatic approach
has never been in contradiction with working towards a vision. Quite the
contrary.
It remains
the most visionary project in recent history. Its energy and attraction is
striking. Its adaptability is unprecedented. But only if certain conditions are
met: when national politicians exercise ownership of the European project and
don't treat Europe as foreign interference, when cooperation reaches new levels
of maturity, and when the politics of Europe
are on the offensive.
That is
what's at stake in the coming European elections. They are a decisive moment to
stand up for what has been achieved and to build a consensus around what needs
to be done, to speak up for Europe as it really is, and advocate a vision of
what Europe could be. These elections matter a great deal.
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