The US
Senate judiciary committee continues the nomination hearing of supreme court
nominee Amy Coney Barrett
Amy Coney Barrett dodges abortion, healthcare and
election law questions
Democrats press supreme court nominee with little
success
Barrett argues she is not a pundit, on second day of
hearings
Tuesday’s hearing: as it happened
Daniel
Strauss in Washington
@danielstrauss4
Wed 14 Oct
2020 02.16 BSTFirst published on Tue 13 Oct 2020 18.16 BST
On the
second day of hearings before the Senate judiciary committee, Democrats pressed
the supreme court nominee Amy Coney Barrett on healthcare, election law and
abortion rights – and met with little success.
Donald Trump’s
third nominee for the highest court dodged questions on how she might rule on a
challenge to the Affordable Care Act (ACA); whether she would recuse herself
from any lawsuit about the presidential election; and whether she would vote to
overturn the landmark 1973 ruling Roe v Wade, which made abortion legal.
In lengthy
speeches, Democrats maintained that Barrett’s nomination was effectively a
herald of the overturning of that ruling and the ACA, known popularly as
Obamacare. The California senator Kamala Harris, participating in the hearing
remotely, argued that Barrett’s positions on key issues were clear.
“I would
suggest that we not pretend that we don’t know how this nominee views a women’s
right to choose to make our own healthcare decisions,” Harris said late in the
hearings.
In an
exchange with the Delaware senator Chris Coons, Barrett said: “I am not here on
a mission to destroy the Affordable Care Act. I’m just here to apply the law
and adhere to the rule of law.”
Democratic
senators pressed Barrett on whether she would recuse herself from a possible
case about the outcome of the 2020 election. The Connecticut senator Richard
Blumenthal said he was “disappointed” in Barrett’s refusal to commit to a
position. He added: “It would be a dagger at the heart of the court and our
democracy if this election is decided by the court rather than the American
voters.”
Barrett
argued that she was not a pundit, citing remarks by Justice Elena Kagan and the
late Ruth Bader Ginsburg in saying that outside of reviewing a specific case,
it was not her place to offer a position.
“No hints,
no previews, no forecasts,” Barrett quoted Ginsburg as saying, after the
California senator Dianne Feinstein questioned her about how she might rule in
any case challenging the legality of abortion.
She
repeatedly denied any indication that her political views would color her
rulings on the high court. Harris at one point asked Barrett if she had heard
Trump’s vows to seat a supreme court justice who would overturn Roe v Wade and
the ACA.
“I don’t
recall seeing or hearing those statements,” Barrett said.
Harris also
pointed out that Trump nominated Barrett to serve as an appellate judge seven
months after Barrett penned an article criticizing Justice John Roberts’ ruling
upholding the ACA. Harris argued that showed Trump had been elevating Barrett
to overturn the healthcare law.
Supreme
court nominee Judge Amy Coney Barrett testifies during her confirmation hearing
before the Senate judiciary committee. Photograph: Leah Millis/AFP/Getty Images
Barrett is
a devout Catholic whose previous statements and affiliations have come under
close scrutiny. Trump has said overturning Roe v Wade would be “possible” with
Barrett on the court.
When she
was asked about a newspaper ad she signed criticizing Roe v Wade, first
reported by the Guardian, Barrett said she had “no recollection” of it and
stressed she had nothing to hide.
At another
point in Tuesday’s hearing, Barrett cited Kagan in saying she would not give “a
thumbs up or thumbs down” on any hypothetical ruling.
Most of the
Democrats’ questioning centered on the ACA, and how a ruling by the high court
overturning the law would take healthcare away from millions of Americans. A
hearing is due a week after election day. Democrats see protecting the ACA as a
productive electoral tactic. That focus helped the party retake the House of Representatives
in 2018.
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Barrett
said she was not hostile to the ACA, abortion or gay rights, another area
worrying progressives as the court seems set to tilt to a 6-3 conservative
majority. Barrett said she was simply focused on upholding the law.
“I apply
the law, I follow the law,” Barrett said. “You make the policy.”
Asked about
gay rights, Barrett said: “I would not discriminate on the basis of sexual
preference.”
Her choice
of words conspicuously suggested that to her, sexuality is a choice. Amid
scrutiny of Barrett’s past, it has been reported that she was a trustee at a
school whose handbook included stated opposition to same-sex marriage.
After the
Democratic senator Mazie Hirono took issue with her words, Barrett said she
“certainly didn’t mean and would never mean to use a term that would cause any
offense to the LGBTQ community,” adding: “If I did, I greatly apologize for
that.”
Republican
senators also questioned Barrett on healthcare, the Iowa senator Chuck Grassley
asking if she had been asked during the nomination process if she supported
overturning the ACA.
“Absolutely
not,” Barrett said. “I was never asked and if I had been that would’ve been a
short conversation.”
Barrett
said it was “just not true” that she wanted to strike down protections for
Americans with pre-existing conditions.
Asked if she
thought same-sex marriage should be a crime, she said the ruling in Obergefell
v Hodges, in 2015, made it the law of the land.
Asked if
she would recuse herself on any lawsuit over the outcome of the 2020 election,
however, Barrett declined to commit. Instead she said: “I have made no
commitment to anyone – not in the Senate, not in the White House – on how I
would decide a case.”
It was the
first of two sessions of questioning, after which outside witnesses will be
called.
Barrett, in
addition to serving as an appellate judge, is also a professor at the
University of Notre Dame. Almost 100 of Barrett’s colleagues in a letter urged
her to hold off on the confirmation process until after the presidential
election in November.
The letter
pointed out the “rushed nature” of events, adding that it “may effectively
deprive the American people of a voice in selecting the next Supreme Court
justice”.
“You are
not, of course, responsible for the anti-democratic machinations driving your
nomination,” the letter added.
Trump and
Republicans are eager to move quickly. The president has said he wants to see
Barrett confirmed before election day, which is in three weeks’ time,
suggesting that this is in part because he hopes she will rule in his favor if
a challenge to the election result reaches the highest court.
In a
conference call with reporters on Tuesday morning, Senate Democrats fretted
about their chances of stopping Barrett.
“The fact
of the matter is this nominee is extreme,” the Connecticut senator Richard Blumenthal
said. “Her views are outliers.
“I think we
are going to demonstrate today and tomorrow what’s at stake and how extreme and
far right this nominee is.”
He conceded
that Democrats had no “magic” tool to block Barrett. They would, he said, use
every procedural tool they had but “the politics are difficult here.
Republicans are practically boasting that they have the votes.”
Blumenthal
said Democrats were “ultimately making our case to the American people”, to
make them realize the impact Barrett’s nomination was likely to have.
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